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@LightTheUnicorn It would be interesting how other chromium based browsers will handle it, probably could write their own ad blocker. Even then, I'm personally not a fan of other chromium based browsers. @bobpony Already have ages ago. I still need Chrome for specific tasks, but using Googley tools is not one of them. Other things you can do to (I think) make Google's job harder beyond Firefox: @hexxy_the_grouch @bobpony and use the Firefox containers extension. I only use alphabet apps in an alphabet container, meta container for meta, and so on. @hexxy_the_grouch set up Firefox Multi-Account Containers and Temporary Containers and you can sandbox all the tracking @bobpony @bobpony No. But I already don't use Chrome, and the Chromium forks I use are keeping Manifest v2 support for the foreseeable future. @bobpony We don't recommend Chrome for privacy reasons regardless. Using multiple browsers for different purposes is recommended. Firefox and Tor Browser are good. If you like Chromium browsers, Brave is also quite good. @bobpony Maybe not firefox, but definitely going to start looking for alternatives. I don't necessarily have uBlock for stopping normal ads. I use it mostly as an extra layer of security and to stop intrusive ads. I wouldn't mind ads if so many companies wouldn't force them in my face. @bobpony@mastodon.social I use opera gx, I wonder if it will affect it to @bobpony we actually need more browser variety, the more ore less open source things are firefox and chromium, which are imo far from optimal, and then there is proprietary malware that you can use to browse, something like vivaldi and opera, edge and safari. And that's it. If someone like the EU would want to impose a very fascist bill (and spoilers: they do), or if some corpo wanted to ban something, we wouldn't even have some alternative. @bobpony I switched back to Firefox-based browser (LibreWolf) a few years ago and haven't looked back. It is a little too aggressive out of the box for me, but it does away with some of the Mozilla telemetry. @bobpony idk but i remember talking to you in a discord chat like years ago if that counts for anything lol @bobpony I mean, one can always chose not to upgrade, right? I am still sitting on Chromium v90. @bobpony i'm still a firefox user since...ever. my previous browser was Netscape @bobpony people are still using Chrome? (I know they are... It's disappointing to think of) @bobpony Used Firefox as long as it's existed except for a brief flirtation with Chrome ten years ago that lasted about two weeks. NO the percent of users who use add ons of any sort, much less ad blockers, is so small that use of such an add on increases your fingerprint entropy (more or less; YMMV) but seriously, aside from a few of us wierdos on mastodon, NO ONE CARES ??? There is a MV3 based uBlock Origin and it works in most cases. See https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)#filtering-capabilities-which-cant-be-ported-to-mv3 for known missing things. Could you explain your "completely impossible" within that context please? @waldi So we are at: any new thing is bad. This is no useful discussion then. We will get new things and need to remove older ones. You've doubled down from "completely broken" to "not fully work". But you did not provide a single example, so others can see what you mean is broken in practice. So this is a large case of https://xkcd.com/1172/ So you don't know any actual problem with the current implementation. Esp as you started with "completely impossible". The size limits are documented in https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/declarativeNetRequest/ and several changes are pending for the next release. @bobpony I have been on Firefox since Mosiac was a thing. Chrome was *okay* until the memes started about memory usage. That combined with the removal of all tweaks and options... I still have feelings about the firefox mobile client removing the about:config abilities from mainline release... Why should those hidden options only exist in nightly channels?!?! @bobpony can't, i never stopped using it in the first place. But welcome back to the ones who will. Mozilla needs to get their heads on straight if they want Firefox to flourish, even as a second to Chrome. Not implementing things that users want (e.g. tab tiling which was a thing during the XUL extension days), while adding stuff not even non-technical users want or need (e.g. Fakespot integration). It’s frustrating. @bobpony@mastodon.social Switched a while ago. Google can kick rocks, I'm done with them. @bobpony been maining Firefox since it was still Mozilla. Sure, i have and use other browsers for various things, but ff will always be #1 @bobpony @bobpony Always use Firefox as my primary browser. I do separate some aspects of my browsing out to Chromium-based browsers (Brave, Vivaldi) @bobpony #Google can coerce Firefox to switch to MV3 and abandon MV2 by treating to end "default search engine" sponsorship deal. @bobpony If people are still using chrome, I'd say they're probably pot committed at this point. @bobpony Already have! Just in the last month. A few growing pains... and switching between profiles isn't quite as smooth/seamless as in chrome, but otherwise quite liking it. Browser is just as fast. Loving Privacy Badger. Pocket is an interesting addition. Extensions are just as plentiful, everything is FOSS. AND I switched to Duck Duck Go; yeah it might be Bing and Yahoo under the hood, but its enshittification factor is so much lower than Google. Im actually getting relevant results! @bobpony Another member of team Firefox has always been my primary browser. Welcome back, all. @bobpony careful, you'll get all the Google loyalists chirping on about how MV3 is just fine, thank you very much, and it isn't in any way going to break anything (I'm not kidding, I've had this argument here already with people who are literally on standards boards, who also don't care) Already on FF, Chrome is atrocious garbage. My health insurance uses microsoft teams and it'll only run in Chrome. I'm so so stoked with exchanging private medical info over chrome. just super. 🤬 @Aylastark@universeodon.com @bobpony@mastodon.social Give Vivaldi a try. They vehemently oppose Google and the browser is terrific. |
@bobpony I think this will push a lot of folk to consider a different browser, if they hadn't before.
it is not a fun time without some form of ad-blocking that's for sure.