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Markus Werle

@JessTheUnstill #Master in the sense of Master Yoda Branch. It's not actually ruling over any other branches, it just holds all the acceptable truth and all others contribute to or derive from it.

github.com/dep-heaven/tool_1/b

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But I am very happy that the change of "master" to "main" at #GitHub had such a huge impact on abolishing slavery and that all abuse via #capitalism has ceased due to this extraordinary state.
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Jess👾

@markuswerle Just because a simple language change doesn't unwind centuries of atrocities and abuses doesn't mean it's not worth doing. I can't solve systemic racism, but I can try to influence the little parts of the world I have some control over in a more inclusive direction.

Markus Werle

@JessTheUnstill I don't see it this way. By putting energy into a virtual hair-splitting you explicitly deny authentic action in the real world. It gives you a sense of movement, but this pre-stage of word policing only alienates people who would otherwise stand with you.

To make it clear: I only refer to the part with "master". The usage of blacklisting/whitelisting is something I consider worthwhile to rethink due to the referral to slavery. The word "master" has a larger semantic field.

Jess👾

@markuswerle
Re: "It gives you a sense of movement, but this pre-stage of word policing only alienates people who would otherwise stand with you."

If someone is going to turn against a movement towards a more just and equal world simply because we asked them to use "main" rather than "master", they weren't going to support us anyways when we demanded things that actually materially impact their white privilege or cost them money. They were never going to support the movement until they have a change of heart.

Abi

@markuswerle @JessTheUnstill

it's an incredibly trivial change to switch things over from master to main. do a find-replace, you're probably done in 5 minutes.

the only real waste of energy here is dealing with people who dig in their feet about it.

Markus Werle

@letsbekind2 @JessTheUnstill It is a mess. In my professional life it is a continuous PITA to double check the branch name containing ground truth.

Steven Reed

@markuswerle
Ironically my usually change resistant brain has apparently adapted to GitHub's changed default and now gets confused by vanilla git's 'master.' I wonder if there's a way of setting something in .git/config to indicate what's in use? I think I've also seen ways to create symlink-like aliases with refs
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@letsbekind2 @JessTheUnstill

aneristic delusion

@srtcd424

git config --global init.defaultBranch $NAME

I prefer to set it to dev to piss off everyone, including people who use devel.

@markuswerle @letsbekind2 @JessTheUnstill

Steven Reed

@markuswerle
My thinking recently has been that one should "criticise" large scale / public language use, but dial back on doing that for individual private (ish) speech unless the words used are serious slurs. It's really complex area I think in various ways. Apart from anything else not all English speaking countries have the same histories so may not have the same degree of sensitivity on a given issue.
@JessTheUnstill

Orc

@markuswerle @JessTheUnstill "main" is a much more accurate term that "master". "Baseline" might be better, but either that or "main" works.

Why are you worked up about the old default name?

Markus Werle

@orc @JessTheUnstill Because of the hypocrisy that accompanied the change.

Orc

@markuswerle @JessTheUnstill "Hypocrisy"

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

(come to think of it, neither does "master".)

Have a nice life, dude.

Jess👾

@markuswerle @orc
I mean, you could have just led with "I only support changes that I in my white male wisdom have deemed 'worthy' of my time." I could have much more quickly discovered that you aren't an ally, will ALWAYS deem anything that inconvenience you as "unworthy", and in my white trans lesbian wisdom have decided you aren't worthy of my continued interaction. Goodbye.

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