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Rodrigo Santamaría

@twobiscuits @mariellequinton @mbonsma Well, i'd say it is way more assymetrical. If you've the potential to kill a person, your obligation is way higher. That's what is in discussion here imo.

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meganisalanis

@efialto @twobiscuits @mariellequinton @mbonsma

It's an interesting debate...

When pedestrians are far more likely to be injured or worse, it may mean we'd expect greater care to be taken with their own safety?

Any noise canceling headphones will alter your experience of your surroundings & I believe should be used when you are in a position to do so without risk - consider cycling, skiing, driving - these are not times to block or mask your hearing in my opinion.

Stay safe people 🙏 ❤️

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@meganisalanis @efialto @twobiscuits @mariellequinton @mbonsma Exactly, we are not the problem but it is not wise to be distracted when crossing the street

elizabeth veldon

@meganisalanis @efialto @twobiscuits @mariellequinton @mbonsma some of us need noise canceling headphones to negotiate the world.

should autistic people not leave the house?

Twobiscuits replied to elizabeth

@elizabethveldon @meganisalanis @efialto @mariellequinton @mbonsma The only thing ppl should do is whatever they reasonably can, and that is obviously a whole patchwork of different abilities. How I understand "distracted" is "being less alert to your surroundings than you can reasonably be expected to." That doesn't sound like what you would be doing.

elizabeth veldon replied to Twobiscuits

@twobiscuits @meganisalanis @efialto @mariellequinton @mbonsma yet noise canceling headphones where specificly brought up as a form of distraction.

would you want to check in with the relitives of the person you killed to check if they should have been wearing those headphones?

squifish

@meganisalanis @efialto @twobiscuits @mariellequinton @mbonsma noise cancelling car cabs would be even worse then right? So purchasing a car with that feature is irresponsible and reckless regardless of how it's driven

Alistair K

@meganisalanis @efialto @twobiscuits @mariellequinton @mbonsma

"When pedestrians are far more likely to be injured or worse, it may mean we'd expect greater care to be taken with their own safety?"

I hear this often, but I don't follow the logic – there seems to be a step (or more) missing there, and no one who makes this claim seems able to fill it in.

What makes it different from requiring the target, not the shooter, to take greater responsibility for avoiding gunshot injury?

Madeleine Bonsma-Fisher, PhD

@meganisalanis @efialto @twobiscuits @mariellequinton we tried this already (all road safety campaigns for the last 80 years) and it's not working

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