@Gargron
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@Gargron ai isn't art. it's a glorified bar trick.

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@Gargron just like we hire an orchestra every time we'd like to listen to some music.

@Gargron You do realize, that from the perspective of a rentier capitalist, that old model had a very big problem, called “artist” that wanted to be paid?

@Gargron and we already had a way to host apps on the Internet, but AWS still killed thousands of companies for no actual productivity gain.

@Gargron I'm fed up with reading these luddite criticisms based on nothing, you are 30 years old, you are no longer a child even if you reason as if you were.

@Gargron AI art is funny to mess with though

@Gargron And do you think capitalism has worked Eugen?

@Gargron they played us for absolute fools

@Gargron so gig workers are what you support? Artist need more support than a possible future commercial transaction.

@Gargron I get your point. But: computer was once a term for a person that computes... I'd say there have always been such side effects of technological evolution. That change (replacing/automating human jobs) shouldn't be too abrupt though.

@Gargron I paid an artist something like $500 to illustrate a D&D character once. That's expensive!

@Gargron I find it quite amusing that there are now so many ML-generated images, that image-generation ML models are now trained partly with ML-generated images.
Digital incest, kinda.

@Gargron I really like the feature where the same prompt can be handed to multiple artists in parallel, and the resulting works can be hung adjacent to each other for everyone to enjoy the juxtaposition of styles and interpretation.

@Gargron I don't like artists very much

@Gargron
This is a really great, simple take that I think can be turned into a soundbite to hit back at techbros.
Thanks for sharing it with the world.

@Gargron @0x00string But would those paid artists create uncanny valley-like images that look way too human until you look too close and see the horror lurking within hmmm?

@Gargron With Midjourney, you have to try your prompt, over and over, with slight variations, until it randomly gives you something like what you wanted.

With an artist, the number of iterations is usually 1 or 2, and you are a lot more likely to get exactly what you want.

@Gargron every now and then I wonder whether the kind of people who claim they "made" their AI art would claim they "made" their commissioned art, but of course they would.

@Gargron the fact that "AI" is a cheap way to not pay artists is a fair one to make, but let's not forget that the current state of the art "AI" systems can only get better at making that art by ripping off those same artists. This means that once all the real art is gone "AI" is just going to get worse, and having starved out all the artists we're all going to be worse off for it.

@Gargron Unfortunately that’s the Luddite argument. The logical endpoint is that we employ everyone to dig holes in the road with spoons.

The better argument is that artists create something original, even if it builds upon the work of others (as it inevitably does).

“AI” by definition can only create a parody.

Artists (or indeed software developers) who do the same are (unfortunately for them) ripe for replacement.

@Gargron #innovative

@Gargron But it made *artists* rich and not investors, so

@Gargron Yes. Commissioned.

@Gargron, I don't think art & music education in the US does enough to impress most people with how difficult it is to make art. There's so much slickly produced advertising art in our culture that people just think it just happens. In any case, they rarely seem to consider the effort and training behind it. As an amateur photographer I know how hard it is to get the "perfect" shot.

@Gargron yes but how does this pearl clutching about AI jive with your decision to, lol, go ahead and connect the fediverse to corporate social media systems that are used to train said AI?

How confusing for some of us, who only came to masto in the first place to get away from all of that, and then here you are complaining about AI? Ironic.

@Gargron we already had modes of moving people from one place to an other, it was called "walking".