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@bitflipped

Not just that, but the official app and website are openly telling people to just sign up on mastodon.social.

I get that they want to keep things as simple as possible for users who don't understand federation, but they could have recommended a server with a long track record that isn't quite as large.

And they didn't.

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Nafeon :verified_solarpunk:

@feditips @bitflipped they could've even provided multiple servers and you get to one randomly when you sign up, but they did nothing.

Tara L. Campbell

@NafiTheBear @feditips Plenty of online games do this to balance the load, it's surprising a similar feature wasn't implemented when they started suggesting mastodon.social as the starting point.

Cameron

@feditips Exactly, and so what we've ended up with is a data silo that's a core/integral part of the fediverse, or at least the Mastodon part of it.

There isn't really a way to "migrate" to another server in any meaningful sense either, so I can't see many people actually doing it.

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@bitflipped

"There isn't really a way to "migrate" to another server in any meaningful sense either, "

Keeping your existing followers and follows, bookmarks, lists, blocklists etc and redirecting people to your new profile from your old posts/profile is very meaningful.

None of these are possible on centralised networks.

It's not an "all or nothing" thing.

Cameron

@feditips Yes, but you'll probably find that most people won't be willing to leave their posts behind on another server.

DELETED

@bitflipped @feditips
meh, it's not possible to search one's own posts, so every day's posts are left behind in the past anyway.

Cameron

@heyjupiter @feditips it is now providing your server has it enabled (and if you opted in presumably). Search for from:<your username> <term>

DELETED

@bitflipped @feditips
There's no link to any documentation of this function in the user interface. If the user doesn't know it exists, then it doesn't exist.

Cameron

@heyjupiter @feditips Yes, it's brand new and not all servers have even upgraded yet. There has been a lot of chatter about it however.

They will be refining it.

DELETED

@bitflipped @feditips
they haven't refined not posting private DMs as public posts, so I'm not holding my breath...

DELETED replied to DELETED

@bitflipped @feditips
in other words, please stop gaslighting me

Cameron replied to DELETED

@heyjupiter @feditips Gaslighting? You made an incorrect statement, so I tried to be helpful by pointing you to functionality that you didn't seem to know existed.

That's not gaslighting, that's just correcting factually incorrect information. I realise that's not terribly popular these days, but I think you'll find what you just did is actually gaslighting.

DELETED replied to Cameron

@bitflipped @feditips
you're asserting that an undocumented CLI command syntax is somehow available to users, as if a tree falling in the middle of a forest when no one is around will make a noise. I mean, okay, sure, technically you're right.

In other news, I noticed literally just now that the ENTIRE USER INTERFACE for DMs is COMPLETELY GONE. I can't send a DM, I can't receive a DM, I can't view any previously sent DM. I can't view any previously received DM. Mastodon is such a shit show.

Kudra :maybe_verified:

@bitflipped @feditips I believe Firefish and other Misskey based instances allow migration of posts? Possibly other Fedi projects too.

It's what I'm hoping for most in Fedi generally, I know that there's WordPress plugins to import Tweets, for example... my ideal scenario is being able to get all my old xml files from every social media site that allowed export before they died / became enshittified, to import to one master Social Media timeline for all of my history, including a permissions capability for comments to be imported as well. Yes, I am a dreamer. But I'm sure I'm not the only one.

@bitflipped @feditips I believe Firefish and other Misskey based instances allow migration of posts? Possibly other Fedi projects too.

It's what I'm hoping for most in Fedi generally, I know that there's WordPress plugins to import Tweets, for example... my ideal scenario is being able to get all my old xml files from every social media site that allowed export before they died / became enshittified, to import to one master Social Media timeline for all of my history, including a permissions capability...

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@kudra @bitflipped

They're not proper migration of posts in Firefish. They're duplications of posts, but links/threads with the old posts won't match up with the new copies

If you leave posts on the old servers, as on the Mastodon migration process, the links/threads carry on working fine.

"I know that there's WordPress plugins to import Tweets,"

WordPress has an official plugin that turns it into a Fediverse server, by the way:

fedi.tips/wordpress-turning-yo

The blog posts are also Fedi posts.

@kudra @bitflipped

They're not proper migration of posts in Firefish. They're duplications of posts, but links/threads with the old posts won't match up with the new copies

If you leave posts on the old servers, as on the Mastodon migration process, the links/threads carry on working fine.

"I know that there's WordPress plugins to import Tweets,"

Kudra :maybe_verified:

@feditips @bitflipped yes, aware of all these things. You can't migrate anything and guarantee the links will update, beyond a certain point, and have already been playing around with the WordPress ActivityPub plugin, but it's not playing nice with my shared hosting so waiting to see if that kind of issue gets resolved eventually. Importing posts from one site to another will always be a copy, for me it would be incredibly valuable to have that long timeline even with issues. Back in the days this issue was discussed and dealt with in various ways by LJ clones.

@feditips @bitflipped yes, aware of all these things. You can't migrate anything and guarantee the links will update, beyond a certain point, and have already been playing around with the WordPress ActivityPub plugin, but it's not playing nice with my shared hosting so waiting to see if that kind of issue gets resolved eventually. Importing posts from one site to another will always be a copy, for me it would be incredibly valuable to have that long timeline even with issues. Back in the

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