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Zach Weinersmith

There should be a reverse Indiana Jones film where a South American tribe sneaks into the Vatican, steals some relics, and gets away on a boat while a bunch of men in golden robes shake their fists and shout their strange language.

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Zach Weinersmith

"Reverte! Illud est praeputium sanctum!"

Merrit DeBartolo MD (he/him)

@Sneesel @vincent “In nomine Patris et Filii et Praeputii Sancti Amen.” 😂

(*not sure how you did the diacritical marks there @vincent , mad respect!)

Vincent :coffeecup:

@MerritMD @Sneesel That's already a better religion!

(On the android keyboard, I hold down a letter and it lets me select diacritics. On Mac, it's the same trick.)

✿ Floby 💉😷💨

@ZachWeinersmith /me is trying to translate "its place is in a museum" in mehica

Shirley Eugest

@floby @ZachWeinersmith This is as close as I could get.
"lugarninqa huk museopim kachkan"

✿ Floby 💉😷💨

@EugestShirley @ZachWeinersmith haha thank you! I have literally zero ways to understand how close that is though XD

Mark Gardner

@ZachWeinersmith First time I’ve regretted using @MonaApp’s translation feature

morachbeag

@ZachWeinersmith Id est aromaticus globus escae (manus signum)

turtlecartel

@ZachWeinersmith probably did that during the Reformation, and when abortion was legalised

Seiðr

@ZachWeinersmith Zach, let me tell you there are enough pieces of that around to make a king-size bed blanket if you sew them all together.

rastilin

@richardknott @ZachWeinersmith

There's a bit saying he sold a 50,000 pound roman coin for 40 pounds on ebay...

wakame

@ZachWeinersmith

Now, if you replace the Vatican with the British Museum...

The protagonist with an activist that wants to reclaim stolen cultural goods...

And present western culture and ideology in all their weirdness...

That would make a good film or even franchise.

Director: "They have stolen the priceless MacGuffin."
Police Officer: "But didn't we steal it first?"
Director: "Exactly. That's why I want it back."

wakame

@nuncio

Technically priceless, since we are not allowed to sell it after the way-past-due date :blobcatgiggle:​

Spicewalla

@wakame

Archer just did an episode like that. It was a man from Nigeria stealing artifacts from a british museum. The macguffin was a 'cursed' plaque.

imdb.com/title/tt28466041/

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Isaac

@wakame @ZachWeinersmith The Vatican also has a bunch of Jewish artifacts they're refusing to talk about

TinheadNed

@ZachWeinersmith the monkey paw curse is that the tribe will be led by a Chosen white guy (see fern gully, avatar et al)

Jess👾

@tinheadned @ZachWeinersmith
I'll have you remember: the guy in Avatar was very clearly blue. /s

Andy Lundell 🙄

@ZachWeinersmith And an Inverse Indiana Jones film where doctor Jones places an artifact in a temple, and tells the Nazis where to go pick it up.

Shannon Cuthrell

@ZachWeinersmith Interesting! Beats the same old formulaic plot in every Indiana Jones film. These franchises need something different. shannoncuthrell.substack.com/p

un viejo marginal

@shannoncuthrell @ZachWeinersmith
¡también podrían ser las bóvedas de los bancos centrales de Portugal, España o Inglaterra ¡eeeh!
como ven hay material para una franquicia con solo algunas de las recuperaciones posibles

oh! esta conversación iba en ingles lo siento

🌳 The Dandelion Grove 🌳

@ZachWeinersmith alternatively also the British Museum, and on the getaway men in pompous brit outfits shout an unintelligible slew of Britishisms at the getaway vehicle.

“Oi rightio chaps crisps jellied eel queen wanker lift torch innit!”

Earthy Tonez

@ZachWeinersmith I love the 1920's era-ish exploration genre, and I've been really curious if there's way to do them in a way that is modern/not problematic, and unfortunately I think the answer is sadly probably not, but I would watch this movie.

Zach Weinersmith

@mikkergp I think part of why sci fi/fantasy has gotten so big is you can kinda bring back these kinds of stories minus the bad stuff.

Ongion

@ZachWeinersmith there's a game for that! It doesn't have a South American tribe, but it does feature reverse-Indiana Jones aka Pennsylvania Smith!
games.digipen.edu/games/it-bel

Asariel

@ZachWeinersmith I have NO sympathy for them. Four & a half centuries ago they had done worse than the first world to the third. Read about Clergy Bartolome de las Casas. Now the fight is to preserve our climate before it worsens. New reality is a myth and things may turn worse that they are now. Use and promote green energy.

random thoughts

@ZachWeinersmith@mastodon.sociaI would be satisfied with wqtching a Greek archeologist raiding British Museum as Beefeaters are shaking their moustaches at him shouting in a strange language (cockney rhyming slang)...

Oggie

@ZachWeinersmith Alternatively, you can have him steal from the British 'collections' and have beefeaters and strange rituals.

' this belongs not in this museum!'

Mastodon Migration

@ZachWeinersmith The sequel would be a bunch of South Pacific Islanders team up to tunnel under the British Museum and steal back their mega-ton Moai stone statues.

britishmuseum.org/about-us/bri

Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle

@ZachWeinersmith there was this Brazilian writer, Ariano Suassuna, who at least once gave a speech (recorded, shared) alerting to the absurd of this scene

Perhaps YouTube will autotranslate?

youtu.be/Dz5u1lhHFYM

Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle

@ZachWeinersmith

Somehow this reminded me of Eduardo Galeano's quote in the 1703 Methuen Treaty: our gold left holes in Brazil, churches in Portugal and factories in England. (Brazil's gold rush was during its colonial period.)

Clay Rosenthal

@ZachWeinersmith the new archer season has a mini version of this, in episode 3: “plaque removal”, even has a version of short round helping out.

Rocko_McDagger

@ZachWeinersmith Not gonna lie, I would get tons of entertainment watching reactionaries crying about the movies.

excited for the mastodon rise

@ZachWeinersmith I would 1000% watch that movie.

OMG please make it happen.

Gemini6Ice

@ZachWeinersmith somewhat related, are you familiar with Spirit Island?

C.S.Strowbridge

@ZachWeinersmith

I work as a data analyst in the movie industry and sometimes work with indie filmmakers looking to find investors. One of the business plans I worked on was basically this, but with Greeks going after the British Museum.

Cainmark 🚲

@ZachWeinersmith

Lexi Alexander had a great plot similar to this.

Paul Bamford

@ZachWeinersmith Raiders of the Elgin Marbles (could be a very long-running franchise).

thepoliticalcat

@ZachWeinersmith One for each nation colonized. Definitely featuring those cannibals who eat the flesh and drink the blood of their dead god. Gross!

Jake

@ZachWeinersmith have you seen any films made in African Countries? I am sure I saw that some where. Def Cable Access vibes from 1990s.

benx

@ZachWeinersmith

Confused as to why no-one in the comments has mentioned Black Panther.

This scene in particular: youtu.be/tc2iC7iMc_g

Also, Indiana Jones 4, itself, involves him returning an artefact to where it was found.

In principle, though, I agree. More of this!

Peter Principle

@ZachWeinersmith Gotta have a scene where a devious but cowardly white guy steals the relic from the hero but then gets caught in some fiendish Vatican man trap.

Theresa

@ZachWeinersmith sure, excepts Indigenous people can't "steal" relics, more like "return"

Tim Richards

@ZachWeinersmith @static And the sequel can feature the British Library.

o76923

@ZachWeinersmith@mastodon.social

Oceans 57 where the crew is one person from each of their former colonies executing a heist on the British Museum.

SistaWendy

@ZachWeinersmith The trouble is, their gold usually got melted down. And a lot of it is in Spain, not the Vatican.

Jargoggles

@ZachWeinersmith
For the full "make them look more primitive than they actually were" effect, the Swiss Guard could angrily shake halberds at them.

Chris M

@ZachWeinersmith gotta be honest a “reverse Indiana jones” sounds like a real cooky sex act.

Aphelion

@ZachWeinersmith I want an entire movie that is an extended version of that one scene in Black Panther where Killmonger liberates stolen artefacts from a museum. Except without the figleaf of the protagonist being from 'Wakanda'.

Omegasqueak

@ZachWeinersmith

We could launch the pope down a slope, to become the boulder. :ablobcatheadbang:

Tattooed_Mummy

@ZachWeinersmith I think his son should be the more culturally aware version of him, same skills but now taking things his dad stole and returning them. Whole new franchise

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@ZachWeinersmith I can pinpoint one of the biggest leaps I personally took from "easy and clean childhood thinking" to "messy and complicated adult thinking" as the time I realised "wait, tfym 'it belongs in a museum'? why?! it belongs to the people who own it!"

Karstanization 🦀🦀

@ZachWeinersmith Ke Huy Quan as a grown up short round that goes around liberating all the artifacts Indiana stole, and returns them to the people he stole them from. Indy is a museum curator and they run into each other at a swanky function while Short Round cases the museum. As it dawns on Indy what's happening, Short Round leaves in a hurry and calls over his shoulder "No time for love, Dr. Jones."

Alexander The 1st

@ZachWeinersmith So, like a heist version of the scene in Black Panther where Killmonger takes back an item from the British Museum, but just add "Italian Job" or similar?

Although I suppose it would make sense to do that, but crossover it with "Night at the Museum" twist to turn the museum itself into an Indiana Jones situation?*

livinghell

@ZachWeinersmith one of the episodes of the last season of archer was about this.

Workshopshed

@ZachWeinersmith or perhaps one where an African high school professor and her handsome young assistant braves the moors of Yorkshire and is forced to eat black pudding by a local Rotary Club?

That's kind of heading in a Goodness Gracious Me direction...

youtu.be/H-uEx_hEXAM?si=aiPu3u

3dcandy

@ZachWeinersmith Of course the South Americans will have to shout "Vamos!" loudly all the time....

rainynight65

@ZachWeinersmith I want the same as a video game - where Lara Croft breaks into famous museums to steal artefacts and return them to their rightful owners.

DELETED

@ZachWeinersmith I like the idea, but since all Indiana Jones movies happen anywhere else besides South America, a reverse movie would require a different kind of tribe.

Raiders of the Lost Ark - France/Hawaii/Tunisia
The Temple of Doom - Macau/Sri-Lanka/USA
The Last Crusade - Jordan/Spain

Maxime Augier

@ZachWeinersmith there's a great parodic comic book called "Inanna Djoun au pays des français", basically this but with a babylonian archeologist bringing civilization to France. Direct spoof of Tintin for the characters and storytelling.

bdtheque.com/series/19568/inan

Tricky_TDG

@ZachWeinersmith and then they have to dodge a huge doughnut sign that rolls their way.

Daniel Brotherston

@ZachWeinersmith

I mean...how does this not exist...it would be amazing!

phooky

@ZachWeinersmith All the people responding that it should be the British Museum can stuff it; the Vatican would have _much_ better traps

Leonard Ritter

@ZachWeinersmith who's the nazis in this version? typically the story isn't that indiana gets away, it's that the nazis appear just when he has the relic secured to take it from him

Infoseepage #StopGazaGenocide

@ZachWeinersmith Oceans 11 style museum heist film only they're a bunch of angry Greeks wanting to repatriate the Pantheon marbles.

Infoseepage #StopGazaGenocide

@ZachWeinersmith

Immediate sequel to follow with Nigerians heisting the Benin Bronzes.

@faktoider

@ZachWeinersmith Twist: The relics are as fake as the Dumbarton Oaks figure probably is.

Condorito

@ZachWeinersmith

I'm imagining a plot where a bunch of out of work teens and 20yos on native land hear about on the internet artifacts from their tribe at the local university. All of them jump in their rez runner and have a road trip/indy type movie.

Plot twist: the entire department at the university is on their side and helps them in the climactic police chase through the desert with ATVs, horses, and choppers.

Xander Zzyzx

@ZachWeinersmith In that case they'll just be taking back their stolen relics.

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