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ja2ui0

@darnell @danjac @Gargron just so we're clear, Starlink shouldn't be controlled by the US either. Unfortunately we're not quite living in a Gene Roddenberry society yet so "the world" can't really own anything.

We should work on that.

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Darnell Clayton :verified: replied to ja2ui0

@jq @danjac @Gargron How much control over a product depends on the contract set up when an entity buys the product.

Apple, Tesla, & Starlink (via SpaceX) retain great control after a client purchases their product.

Governments signing those contracts are begrudgingly obliged to follow them or risk losing access to those products & services.

It's a classic power move.

DELETED replied to Darnell Clayton :verified:

@darnell @jq @Gargron right, this is the difference and what I mean by ceding control to the private sector.

It's one thing to hire contractors to build a school. It's quite another to have privately-run (but publicly-funded) schools.

ja2ui0 replied to DELETED

@danjac @darnell @Gargron It's possible I inadvertently derailed that line of conversation so I'll put it back right now.

I'm interested in governments building schools. I'm not interested in governments sanctioning, and supporting, superstition as education.

We can fund the building and we can set completely independent educational standards. Funding a building is not a tacit or explicit endorsement of what goes on inside. That's separate.

ja2ui0 replied to Darnell Clayton :verified:

@darnell @danjac @Gargron That why I'm suggesting that we need a world group, or at least a coalition of national governments, who protect (that is their job) against those private abuses.

You used Apple as an example, so not to pick on them, but let's go with it. If Apple wants to retain control, backdoors, etc, the controlling entity has a kill switch. Fuck with us, we'll just push the big red button. And we won't let you have so much control that doing so would be catastrophic. Just inconvenient.

ja2ui0 replied to ja2ui0

@darnell @danjac @Gargron since you brought me back, Dan, I get a chance to clarify and will take advantage of that.

The whole world order seems to be companies and government fighting against each other. The closest we ever got to cohesion in recent history was coronavirus.

Just imagine.

How great could we be as a human society if we didn't rely on threats to react, and instead behaved like an, I dunno, probably crazy, GLOBAL HUMANITY.

Completely doable. Capitalism and religion prevents it.

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