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Some kinda augmented reality that replaces all display advertising with classical art or gifs from /r/aww

Quote attributed to Banksy put it best:

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Mori

@fixatedpersonsunit Great quote.

One of the most insidious travesties is advertising companies convincing people that personalised advertising is a good thing. No itโ€™s not! It makes the ads more affective at psychologically nudging you towards an outcome that benefits the advertisers and their customers. It allows them the charge more money for that benefit. And it trains you to accept a very high level of advertising.
Turn off personalised ads and the pain you quickly feel from all the dross is what ads are really like.

@fixatedpersonsunit Great quote.

One of the most insidious travesties is advertising companies convincing people that personalised advertising is a good thing. No itโ€™s not! It makes the ads more affective at psychologically nudging you towards an outcome that benefits the advertisers and their customers. It allows them the charge more money for that benefit. And it trains you to accept a very high level of advertising.
Turn off personalised ads and the pain you quickly feel from all the dross is...

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@mori @fixatedpersonsunit

Honestly, I think Bill Hicks was onto something when he said, during a stand-up:

"Is anyone here tonight in advertising? If so, KILL YOURSELF."

LOL

Mori

@CosmicTrigger @fixatedpersonsunit Yeah, I also recall him devilishly demolishing marketers as well. He knew the deal ๐Ÿ˜‰

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@mori @fixatedpersonsunit

He might have said "marketing" not "advertising" but same thing really

Mori

@CosmicTrigger @fixatedpersonsunit Once I asked someone in marketing what the difference was and they couldnโ€™t tell me.

lucas

@CosmicTrigger @mori @fixatedpersonsunit "Ohhh! He's going for the anti-marketing dollar, we've done the research, big market right now!"

AmonTheMetalHead

@mori @fixatedpersonsunit This is why I advocate adblocking, not using chrome etc. Even my android phone is ad- & google free and I wouldn't have it orherwise.

Mori

@AmonTheMetalHead @fixatedpersonsunit Yeah I eventually de-googled a few years back, partly from using other apps, partly from switching the iPhone, which isnโ€™t perfect, but isnโ€™t Google.

(((X ร† ร…-12)))

@mori @fixatedpersonsunit This was one of the selling points at Xwitter: "pay for blue mark and get more personalised ads." I'm sorry, if you want to surveille me on internet you have to do it for free.

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@mori @fixatedpersonsunit They follow you on all devices. I used to use FB only on a tablet and I would see things I searched for on my computer on my FB which I kept totally private using a different name and email. The invasion is psychotic but we've become normalized to the near criminal cyber stalking.

skua

@fixatedpersonsunit
My #Android phone has a Gallery app.

The app lets me draw on images.

See below:

NK30 :arch: :verified_root:

@skua @fixatedpersonsunit "Don't allaw him to speak", except dumping all the shit aut of his brain onto :birdsite:

Sheepie

@fixatedpersonsunit @dgar I was always disappointed the Stop Tony Meow addon didn't spread to subsequent PM's, didn't spread to FireFox, and also didn't go in to the ad blocking market. theguardian.com/world/australi

Sheepie

@fixatedpersonsunit @dgar I would definitely endorse an augmented reality addition to the functionality though.

Dave J

@bastardsheep Yes! I came here to mention that plugin. It was a brilliant piece of software, and immensely improved my mood.

Jason

@fixatedpersonsunit Love that! #Banksy is amazing. Saw a gallery with his or her art recently. A couple of my favorites...

Sir_Osis_of_Liver

@fixatedpersonsunit

There was a sign for a real estate agent that I would pass on my walk to work.

At one point someone started sticking ~30mm googly eyes on the agent's face. It was juvenile, and ridiculous, and I loved it.

For almost a year, googly eyes would show up for a few days, then the signage people would clean them off, only to be replaced a few days later.

The agent finally relented and went to a text only sign, which was sort of too bad.

seism0saurus ๐Ÿฆ•

@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @fixatedpersonsunit

Maybe your local nerd stuff supply has these usefully emergency googly eyes.

Howlin' Hobbit

@fixatedpersonsunit @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @seism0saurus

definitely looks like something that Seattleโ€™s Archie McPhee would have in stock.

I think you can shop online too.

mcphee.com/

undead enby of the apocalypse

@fixatedpersonsunit @Sir_Osis_of_Liver there used to be a few busses with ads like that on the back that had a picture of the landbastard, I know itโ€™s probably a lot harder to do that on a bus and not get caught but it wouldโ€™ve been hilarious to see the googly eyes shake as the bus moved (and way better than being filled with rage as the piece of shit that is exploiting other peopleโ€™s need for housing and increases the rent at every opportunity making the whole housing situation of the town even worse grins at you smugly from the back of the bus driving in front of you)

@fixatedpersonsunit @Sir_Osis_of_Liver there used to be a few busses with ads like that on the back that had a picture of the landbastard, I know itโ€™s probably a lot harder to do that on a bus and not get caught but it wouldโ€™ve been hilarious to see the googly eyes shake as the bus moved (and way better than being filled with rage as the piece of shit that is exploiting other peopleโ€™s need for housing and increases the rent at every opportunity making the whole housing situation of the town even...

Mizah

@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @fixatedpersonsunit No replacing the oโ€™s and the dots on the iโ€™s with googly eyes? Sad.

Andrew Zonenberg

@fixatedpersonsunit I had the same idea years ago.

Was thinking just black rectangles but I guess I'm boring that way.

Peter Bindels

@azonenberg @fixatedpersonsunit I was thinking rectangles of like 30cm high and 1m20 wide, saying "AD BLOCKED", to be placed diagonally across the ad

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@fixatedpersonsunit

Every time I see a billboard, I wish I had a grenade launcher

Kevin Forbes

@fixatedpersonsunit I wouldn't mind just the "They Live" setting that replaces them with OBEY CONSUME REPRODUCE etc

astroPug

@fixatedpersonsunit

This is a beautifully phrased quote. The argument it makes is so clear, but it feels so alien, because weโ€™ve all grown up in a world where advertisements doing exactly that โ€œbullying is, making our partnerโ€™s feel inadequate, etc.โ€ is what weโ€™ve known as โ€œnormalโ€.

Come to think of it, no, itโ€™s not.

And Iโ€™m plenty of fun! And sexy! My abs are sheltered by the finest of adipose tissue!

Silly doctored magazine cover/billboard-unskippable advertisement.

Peter Amthor

@fixatedpersonsunit Banksy is sounding so wonderfully cyberpunk right there. I absolutely love it.

coolmccool

@fixatedpersonsunit Yes, but isn't that new Apple mother nature ad so wonderful, blah, blah. Such wondrous story-telling, etc. etc.

Actually, it makes me want to VOMIT.

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@fixatedpersonsunit not to mention how they've hijacked 'creativity' and present themselves as the only 'real job' for artists. What a waste.

Sam Adeleine

@faiz @fixatedpersonsunit The key word there is "job": why are artists forced to have a jobโ€”any jobโ€”in order to make art?

Uli Kusterer (Not a kitteh)

@fixatedpersonsunit @me_ For a while polarized sunglasses were that. The ad display panels at lots of bus stops were polarized the same way as sunglasses, so showed up empty. Sadly ad companies caught on to that.

Roger BW ๐Ÿ˜ท

@fixatedpersonsunit "But that would put advertisers out of business." "Yes."

patter

@fixatedpersonsunit Advertising needs to be recognised as pollution

Bakunin Boys

@fixatedpersonsunit at night, rave near the guard's compartment naked with a blue light. Amen.

Pumpkin spiced Wolfdog

@fixatedpersonsunit you can sorta block out a bunch of modern ads by using a polarised filter on a pair of glasses.
vice.com/en/article/xw337w/the

Buuuuut now im wondering if we could do something more active.
Like a camera mounted to a HMD that you can see through, like the XReal Air. You could set some image processing machine learning system to detect ads and logos and have it output a white box in the appropriate part of the display to cover up the ad.
It would eat up power like crazy, but would make an interesting point.

@fixatedpersonsunit you can sorta block out a bunch of modern ads by using a polarised filter on a pair of glasses.
vice.com/en/article/xw337w/the

Buuuuut now im wondering if we could do something more active.
Like a camera mounted to a HMD that you can see through, like the XReal Air. You could set some image processing machine learning system to detect ads and logos and have it output a white box in the appropriate part of the...

Psy Chuan :therian:

@garrwolfdog @fixatedpersonsunit any tech solution inevitably becomes a space for advertisements. the developers of that would immediately start selling exceptions to advertisers

Pumpkin spiced Wolfdog

@PsyChuan @fixatedpersonsunit Not nessessarilly, the great enshitifcation is not an inevitability but you would have to open source the hell out of it. It depends if you're doing it for building it for profit or for a public good. See the creator of VLC

Seb Lee-Delisle

@fixatedpersonsunit I remember an art project that did that exact thing quite a few years ago. Maybe it was @JulianOliver ?

Fish Id Wardrobe

@fixatedpersonsunit The screwiest part is: there is a small body of evidence saying that advertising does not influence our buying choices that much.

MinekPo1

@fixatedpersonsunit where I live billboard adverts have been made illegal, though small ads (on bus stops for example) are allowed.

and I cannot describe how annoyed I am when I see one. aside from these small ads, I see pretty much none, with the contrast becoming quite jarring.

Laurens ๐Ÿงข

@fixatedpersonsunit You can train your consciousness to "ad block" and ignore advertising, both visually and audibly. I'm typing this while there's a commercial block on the radio. Those go in one ear and out the other, so to speak. I just ignore them.

Sam Adeleine

@ElBeeToots @fixatedpersonsunit
1) Are you sure they're not affecting you? Being hyperaware of ads might make you less likely to be influenced by them, because you associate their message with disgust.
2) Not everyone can control their focus that wayโ€”cf #ADHDโ€”which makes advertising an issue of #ableism.

Laurens ๐Ÿงข

@samadeleine
1) Yes, I'm sure. I am aware of the existence of ads and commercials, but they neither entice nor disgust me and I really need to focus my attention on them to 'get' their message. I can't explain it otherwise. The only way a commercial or ad sometimes stands out to me is when it's funny or very obnoxious. And even then I won't be enticed to buy their product.

2) Yes, I know. That's an "art" that advertising companies have perfected to the maximum ๐Ÿ˜’

@fixatedpersonsunit

@samadeleine
1) Yes, I'm sure. I am aware of the existence of ads and commercials, but they neither entice nor disgust me and I really need to focus my attention on them to 'get' their message. I can't explain it otherwise. The only way a commercial or ad sometimes stands out to me is when it's funny or very obnoxious. And even then I won't be enticed to buy their product.

Alex C-G :python: ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

@fixatedpersonsunit I tried making this for noise pollution once, initially using trying to filter out "Never gonna give you up" as a test, by playing the inverse wave form at the same time. Initial tests were not great, so ironically I did give it up

mmby

@fixatedpersonsunit my personal dystopia is that with that sort of AR technology, real space could start being discounted even more, but on purpose:

the design of public space extended to AR is encroached by brands and ad markets, and without the ads, things might look worse - reality as a lever to get people into the brand/ad pipelines

punIssuer

@fixatedpersonsunit image description [1/2]: [excerpt from street artist Banksy's 2004 pamphlet Cut it out]

People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you're not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.
You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It's yours to take, re-arrange and re-use.

@fixatedpersonsunit image description [1/2]: [excerpt from street artist Banksy's 2004 pamphlet Cut it out]

People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you're not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated...

punIssuer

@fixatedpersonsunit [2/2]
You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don't owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don't even start asking for theirs.

Nova๐Ÿงโœจ

@fixatedpersonsunit that's doable with current tech!

1. train an image segmentation model to mask out ads
2. get a good track on those ads by using the 3D scanned scene or text or whatever
3. put a plane there, draw whatever image you want on it

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@fixatedpersonsunit This is how I feel about my white employers who intrude into my private life without permission. They ask me for my date of birth, my race, home address, whether I live with parents without warning on interviews, first days on the job knowing that I cannot choose to say no without repercussion. The invasion, forced closeness is psychological intrusion. No one deserves this.

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@fixatedpersonsunit iirc, there's been a few art projects doing that over the yearsโ€ฆ
With current state of image processing techniques, it should be more doable than everโ€ฆ

ใƒ‡ใ‚คใƒด

@fixatedpersonsunit Even better: I have a strong suspicion that very competent on-the-fly ad replacement algorithms already exist: they're typically used by TV channels to localise stadium adverts during global sports events

It would be so gloriously ironic if someone managed to repurpose them toward hiding adverts altogether.

Ankas

@fixatedpersonsunit Interesting how the quote is low-key addressed to cishet males? "making your girlfriend feel inadequate"?

Pamela N Red

@fixatedpersonsunit I have never understood why people would pay over a thousand dollars for an ugly bag that has the company logo all over it only because someone decided it was prestigious to do so.
And I bet you know the company without me even telling you.

Patrick Gillam

@fixatedpersonsunit

A few toots up I read Greta Thunberg say "We can't save the world by following the rules." And here I read Bansky say something similar. Now to find a third stick-it-to-The-Man item to complete my need for things to come in threes. Thanks.

Mamafalda

@fixatedpersonsunit โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ

Deniz Opal

@fixatedpersonsunit This is brilliant and has got me thinking.... ๐Ÿค”

Nidonemo

@fixatedpersonsunit Wowโ€ฆmay they live a thousand years of perfect health.

๐Ÿ„น๐Ÿ„พ๐Ÿ„ท๐Ÿ„ฝ ๐Ÿ„ท๐Ÿ„ฐ๐Ÿ„ผ๐Ÿ„ด๐Ÿ„ป๐Ÿ„ธ๐Ÿ„ฝ๐Ÿ„บ

@fixatedpersonsunit @drgs100 One of the best parts about the periods of lockdown during COVID (the truly awful parts of this experience notwithstaning of course), was that it destroyed the market for advertising in public spaces. I found myself feeling so much calmer when walking around my city. I truly detest ads.

David Whitmarsh

@fixatedpersonsunit

Who was it who said "advertising is a form of pollution?"

PeachMcD

@fixatedpersonsunit
#ImNotSayingImOldBut I remember a time before #Corporations convinced people to advertise on their bodies

SofaKingHigh

@fixatedpersonsunit Iโ€™m convinced that banksy is my spirit animal

Barry Parr

@fixatedpersonsunit David Ogilvy, perhaps the greatest of all ad men, despised billboards.

Eff Haitch

@fixatedpersonsunit I've actually discussed with my therapist how adblocking has helped my self-esteem.

MidsouthMouth.OctaviaKeats

@fixatedpersonsunit
As much as I admire graffiti, public art, protests, + culture jamming, it's worth thinking about how this applies to truly small business owners. If we apply this to corporations, do we also think the HVAC tech with her small crew + tall van should be in the crosshairs? Should a nonprofit coop, who scraped together funds to reach people offline, be equally targeted?

Dushman

@fixatedpersonsunit@aus.social
Banksy is a bit of a hack but I won't disagree with that

Sam Adeleine

@fixatedpersonsunit Advertising is a computer virus for the brain (a "meme virus" perhaps?), trying to evade our defenses and rewrite our thoughts and preferences.

Nat Zimmermann

@fixatedpersonsunit Good book on this - Advertising Shits in Your Head by Dog Section Press

Cosmosis

@fixatedpersonsunit this reminds me of a short-lived Google service where you paid them a few dollars a month and they replaced ads on existing sites with cat pictures. It was incredible.

Ade I. October

@fixatedpersonsunit Don't usually care for the guy these days but holy shit, this time his points *way* go hard.

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