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Thomas ๐Ÿ”ญโœจ

Good question, website!

1. Faster page loading
2. Content doesn't get obscured
3. Not getting tracked by data brokers
4. Not getting infected by ransomware via vulnerable ad networks
5. Forcing publishers to pursue sustainable revenue streams instead of racing to the click-bait bottom

45 comments
Beko Pharm

@thomasfuchs meanwhile two of mineโ€ฆ

Edith says: This is kinda blowing up and many ask how this is done.

See social.tchncs.de/@bekopharm/11 for an explanation.

See stefanbohacek.com/project/dete for project details.

crystal

@bekopharm @thomasfuchs Out of curiosity, how does it work? Does the ad blocker detect this message as an ad and block it or is it actually detecting it somehow?

Beko Pharm

@crystal @thomasfuchs it's mostly a bunch of css classes that some ad blockers would detect as advertisement and hide from the page automatically.

There is also a "css" file that is named after a well known ads js script. When this is blocked it's not hidden on the page.

I lifted the source for a Hugo page of mine from this project: stefanbohacek.com/project/dete See it in action (or not) on SimPit.dev

It's not 100% perfect, detects no DNS block or so but heyโ€ฆ :D

It's author is @stefan

@crystal @thomasfuchs it's mostly a bunch of css classes that some ad blockers would detect as advertisement and hide from the page automatically.

There is also a "css" file that is named after a well known ads js script. When this is blocked it's not hidden on the page.

I lifted the source for a Hugo page of mine from this project: stefanbohacek.com/project/dete See it in action (or not) on SimPit.dev

Dan

@thomasfuchs Has anyone noticed that anti-adblock things that look like that are increasingly common? I see them on How-To-Geek now, along with a couple tech news websites, and they all look weirdly similar. Iโ€™ve found reader mode bypasses them for the time being though.

DreamGryphon

@bakingSoda

They probably all use the same adblocker-detection plugin instead of writing their own text, so that's why they look simular. :)

Jack Yan (็”„็ˆตๆฉ)

@thomasfuchs Great answers! I get similar messages a lot, but I donสผt block ads, they do! I only block trackers, and if by doing so, no ads are displayed, then they are the stupid ones doing themselves out of income!

Thomas ๐Ÿ”ญโœจ

Just btw, I have nothing against ads.

But almost all ad networks do way more than show ads, often the ads are just a byproduct of incessant tracking and data gathering.

Combined with inefficient and insecure implementation and fueled by a death spiral of websites trying to outcompete each other on the most gross content.

Matthew Sparby

@thomasfuchs EXACTLY! Well, I don't exactly like ads but I would be willing to tolerate them as a condition of free content if the current ad delivery systems weren't inherent security threats.

Phil Rees

@Cloudscout @thomasfuchs And if the sites showed just a little restraint. Our local community site has more ads than content with animations everywhere.

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Nicholas

@thomasfuchs ads started off like traditional billboards. Then marketers started abusing more and more technology to chase after a gross โ€œwe will build personas on everyoneโ€ goal. People are done with being tracked and manipulated online.

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@nicholashead @thomasfuchs
This.

For over a 100 years ads didn't have animations.

And worked perfectly.

Now they are color explosions and constantly flickering which makes reading the article some kind of high power mind game, which is almost unsolvable.

Especially animations are the dumbest idea ad agencies ever had. They make using an ad blocker mandatory.

Thomas ๐Ÿ”ญโœจ

@recker5 @nicholashead lol have you seen animated neon signs from the 30s and 40s?

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@thomasfuchs @nicholashead
Ok. That was before my time. And there were no articles to read between them.

Was more thinking of magazines, the paper-internet before the real internet.

Thomas ๐Ÿ”ญโœจ

@recker5 @nicholashead Fair enough! Thereโ€™s was some attempts at interactivity with magazine ads, for example flexidisk records and scratchโ€™nโ€™sniff but it was relatively rare and mostly gimmicky

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@thomasfuchs @nicholashead
>scratchโ€™nโ€™sniff
Lol.
Sounds exciting.
I missed out.

I just can't read anything if there's a dancing monkey on the left and the right that explodes every 2 seconds.

dexternemrod

@nicholashead

@thomasfuchs

AdNauseam is a nice FF-Extension which you can set to hide and click ads. And you can differentiate between tracking/non-tracking ads so you can allow non-tracking and 'punish' the tracking one (if desired).

olav

@thomasfuchs
Yeah, unfortunately until someone comes up with a better idea ads fuel the "free" internet
My rule is, I have adblock on and if you ask me nice to turn it off I look at the number of ads blocked. If it's more than maybe 15 I can probably get the same thing somewhere else. Doubly the ones that flaunt CCPA by saying you opt-in just for being there. Like the EU I'm supposed to be given an affirmative choice.

Ben Bradley

@thomasfuchs I heard consumer advocate Clark Howard on his radio show raging about Doubleclick's cross-site tracking cookies, and telling how to opt out on Doubleclick's site, in the year 1997. I presume there's no opting out now. The WWW has been this way just about from the start.

butterflyoffire โš

@thomasfuchs ADs are good :

It boosts the RAM of your computer up to 128GB and your processor is upgraded to i9 in matter of seconds ๐Ÿคท

butterflyoffire โš

@thomasfuchs Next :

Short ads delivered directly through the power socket. ๐Ÿคท

Jimmy Hoke :tardis:

@thomasfuchs Malicious ads are so common, and seldom dealt with, one has to wonder if most ad companies are willfully working with criminals.

NegativePrimes

@thomasfuchs #4 is the non-negotiable for me. Don't like the rest, but as long as ads can be used to distribute malware, sayonara!

Thomas ๐Ÿ”ญโœจ

@negativeprimes yeah, itโ€™s the one reason why even people who donโ€™t care to get tracked or have slow browsing should always block ads

Tony Wells

@thomasfuchs

6. No videos covering the screen and eating my data
7. See 6 + audio
8. Looking at a product does not result in seeing ads for it on the next 50 sites.
9. No boxes I need to fill in/click moving as the ad takes so long to load, cough Ebay
10. Not seeing gross, creepy, dangerous, and/or scam ads/websites.
11. No popups/popunders.
12. also... clicking 'Back' on a browser should go back, not to a page of 'Don't leave, we thought you might be interested in this'

MrFrenchFries

@thomasfuchs โ€˜racing to the clickbait bottomโ€™ isnโ€™t just an existential threat to publishers, the internet itself is a threat to most media retail. Itโ€™s nothing less than the spirit of the library having a terrible vengeance on the spirit of the broadcast.

bird-shirted puzzle baby

@thomasfuchs how has nobody other than me noticed the typo of "button" as "bottom" because it would make an extremely good joke

Josรฉ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡พ๐ŸŸฅ :CApride: ๐ŸŸจ :progress: ๐ŸŸฉ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

@thomasfuchs
No. 4 is THE most important of the bunch. Until they can guarantee that, their social contract is broken.

Also, to almost every commercial entity on the internet; the internet was not made for you.

Chuck Taggart, Private Eye

@thomasfuchs I fail to understand why people who put ads on websites that pop up and cover the content I am trying to read with either a static ad or worse, a video, do not themselves understand that when this happens the only thing I want is to make that fucking ad go away and I will never ever in my life buy anything that is advertised thusly.

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