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Mikael Gramont

@aral As a FP user, I feel like I'm also to blame for keeping the Google apps on there. I could install other stuff, but won't because it's too big of a hassle.
As for why they don't do it themselves, I guess it's because replacing Google's polished (but privacy-invading) apps is hard. How much business would they lose if they shipped an OS with UX that's 50% worse?

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Mikael Gramont

@aral It probably sounds like I'm looking down on the open source alternatives, but you know, pouring lots of money into UX makes a huge difference whether I/we like it or not. Hell, Google Android UX sucks compared to Apple's versions.

Aral Balkan

@mikamtb It shouldn’t be about the business. They’re not Samsung.

(And it’s not your fault. You’re lucky you have the technical knowhow to do that if you wanted to and even you don’t have the time to do so without devoting your self to it to keep the custom OS secure and updated and, and, and…) :)

Mikael Gramont

@aral I wish it wasn't about the business, but they have to sell phones or they won't exist much longer.
I hate capitalism as much as your average leftie, but it's hard to impart change in the hardware world without having to play by its rules.

Fahrstuhl
@aral @mikamtb Murena already list the Fairphone 5 in their store: https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-5-fr/

Murena phones run /e/os, a degoogled version of Android.

No idea if it's a better experience than Lineage MicroG on Fairphones which, speaking from experience on Fairphone 2 and 3, is a hassle even after installation.
@aral @mikamtb Murena already list the Fairphone 5 in their store: https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-5-fr/

Murena phones run /e/os, a degoogled version of Android.
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