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jhall251

@DarcMoughty @jgilbert
If you have any decency you face the nasty consequences.

6 Aug 2023 at 1:11 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social
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GreenDotGuy

@jhall251 @jgilbert I wish it worked that way, but reality is that companies listen to their lawyers, and almost no company exec, individual, or even Mastodon server admin is gonna go to jail to spurn the laws of a state they do business in.

6 Aug 2023 at 1:40 | Open on infosec.exchange
dameoutlaw

@DarcMoughty @jhall251 @jgilbert Thanks for saying this. I see this story pushed as if Meta just randomly decided to handover information to the authorities. Then there’s people on their high horses as if admins wouldn’t hand over their data quickly to the law

6 Aug 2023 at 2:15 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
jhall251

@DarcMoughty @jgilbert
Because meta has no legal department and no resources to take the state to court? No ability to raise a stink about it? Come on. There is a lot of room between going to jail vs quickly and quietly handing over info on young women. I understand a teenager being intimidated into cooperating. Not a megacorp.

6 Aug 2023 at 12:59 | Open on mastodon.social
GreenDotGuy

@jhall251 @jgilbert Respectfully, I don't think you quite grasp how this works. If your company is operating in a state where the law says something is criminal, there is no 'stand up to a warrant in court', because the courts will rule against you nearly instantly and levy a punishment.

It's really not a Meta thing. Every phone company, every taxi service or ride share, every social media provider, university, grocery, pharmacy, and doctor would comply with a warrant, regardless of what it's for. It would make national news if they didn't, and they'd lose if they tried to fight it.

It's likely that Meta doesn't even interpret the reason for the warrant, they have a department that handles hundreds or thousands of signed court orders a day and probably a bunch of automated tools to speed compliance.

I work on a team that interfaces between the lawyers and the information systems. We don't even know the reasons for legal holds and discovery requests we satisfy for the courts, we just get names and data request details from the lawyers and feed them to the scripts.

@jhall251 @jgilbert Respectfully, I don't think you quite grasp how this works. If your company is operating in a state where the law says something is criminal, there is no 'stand up to a warrant in court', because the courts will rule against you nearly instantly and levy a punishment.

It's really not a Meta thing. Every phone company, every taxi service or ride share, every social media provider, university, grocery, pharmacy, and doctor would comply with a warrant, regardless of what it's for....

6 Aug 2023 at 17:45 | Open on infosec.exchange
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