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Ralf

@dansup The idea is great, but why a new project? With MLS becoming a thing, supposed to support federation and being better in every way than the signal protocol, while the matrix protocol is an option as well. I've never heard that activityPub is famous for encryption and all the fediverse apps I know support direct (instand?) messaging, but never end to end encrypted.

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Ralf

I'm just concerned at this point that instead of everybody being able to communicate with everybody, everybody makes their own protocol, that supports federation and we end up as we are now, you need 5 different apps, they all support federation but one matrix, one activitypub, one mls and so on...

PhilipKing

@mrrulf There’s that meme. ‘There are 11 competing protocols, we should make a standard’ Six months later ‘There are 12 competing protocols’. We’ve already seen this happen with fediverse directories and block lists. It’s concerning that we might see the same thing with messengers. By all means make a client but do we really need another standard.

Ralf

@PhilipKing jupp, that describes what i mean, I'd understand if end to end encrypted chats for the projekts themselves like pixelfed are added, but an own chat project, thats... well... and even the chat implementation in pixelfed etc, why even include everything in activity pub when u can use multiple protocols, one for chat, one for social media

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