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OceanBlue

@dansup @Yuvalne Any the reason you're not going with MLS from the IETF? It seems like the whole industry is going that way because of the Digital Markets Act.

Fish Id Wardrobe

@dansup @Yuvalne Does "the Signal protocol" mean that, like Signal, I have to give someone my phone number? I assume not, but…

ilyess

@fishidwardrobe I don't think there's any requirement for phone numbers in the #Signal Protocol.

They all sound similar but the Signal Protocol (the technical spec; also used by WhatsApp), The Signal Foundation (the non-profit entity behind Signal), and Signal (the messaging service) are all different things.

@dansup @Yuvalne

Kainoa

@fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk @dansup@mastodon.social @Yuvalne@433.world no, my guess is that it'll use the encryption standards provided by libsignal without using signal's services.

Oliver 👔

@fishidwardrobe @dansup @Yuvalne No, it's used in Skype as well where you're not forced to link it.

Pixelcode 🇺🇦

@fishidwardrobe @dansup @Yuvalne Nope, the Signal Protocol isn't equivalent to the Signal Messenger. For example, the email provider Tutanota uses the Signal Protocol for end-to-end encryption and obviously doesn't require phone numbers.

Signal Messenger only uses phone numbers for sign-up and for “better” contact discovery, though they're working on user names as well.

silverpill

@dansup @Yuvalne

Please consider MLS, end-to-end encryption protocol standardized by IETF: https://blog.phnx.im/rfc-9420-mls/

Matrix and some other messengers are going to adopt it, so there's a possibility that we can interoperate with them in the future.

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