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Just got reminded of another issue on the home assistant repo that got marked as stale

I hate stalebots, I really do

I just poked my todo item for nostalebots.xyz and poked it to maybe look at it again tomorrow

One of the ideas in there is to make an application that people can turn on and use to "revive" stale bot threatened issues every time a stale bot comes around and marks them

I want stalebots to become unusable, I want the noise of constant staleness fighting between users and bots to force the repo owner to either disable the bot, or ban the users, in the latter case exposing their opinion that they don't care about those issues

I want stalebots to become untenable, I want them to be hated with extreme prejudice, I want it to become the hallmark of an uncaring maintainer or a PKI-overdosing company, I want them to be a mark of low quality, I want them to be glared out of existence

I hate stalebots.

24 Jul 2023 at 19:07 | Open on tech.lgbt
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gay gay kitty gay :verified_rainbow:​

@ShadowJonathan fuck stalebots tho

24 Jul 2023 at 19:09 | Open on catcatnya.com
Stephanie Appleby

@ShadowJonathan Stalebots? What's that? I've never heard of that until now!

24 Jul 2023 at 19:10 | Open on mastodon.social
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@cub80_appleby on GitHub, some repo maintainers will add a "stalebot" that will mark old issues as "stale", and then automatically close them, when there's been no activity on them for the last X days/weeks/months

This does not solve the problem, it only serves to chase low issue numbers, hiding persistent problems

The fact that nobody is commenting on those issues (though maybe upvoting or subscribing) does not mean the issue is solved!!! It's incredibly unnecessary, and basically speaks of an unwillingness to or "cost reduction" wrt triaging and tracking issues appropriately, instead having issues be "whatever people care about these days", ignoring persistent and long-suffering issues people have stopped speaking up about, and are instead quietly waiting for fixes

It's also an insult, and slap in the face, for everyone who contributed to filing an issue, only for it to languish due to lack of attention from the maintainer, before it gets robotically closed due to that absence

@cub80_appleby on GitHub, some repo maintainers will add a "stalebot" that will mark old issues as "stale", and then automatically close them, when there's been no activity on them for the last X days/weeks/months

This does not solve the problem, it only serves to chase low issue numbers, hiding persistent problems

24 Jul 2023 at 19:13 | Open on tech.lgbt
Mia Rose Winter :v_greyace:​

@ShadowJonathan This is the true prequel to the Matrix movies

24 Jul 2023 at 19:10 | Open on tech.lgbt
EmberQuill :v_gf:

@ShadowJonathan 100% agree. If they don't want to solve an issue or implement a request, they should close the issue themselves. Cowards.

24 Jul 2023 at 19:16 | Open on tech.lgbt
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@emberquill indeed, exactly, like this they're just black holing issues, quieting them, disregarding the problems or interests of the issuers, and it doesn't matter if the issue has gotten 100+ comments in the past, if all it takes is 2 weeks of inactivity before it gets closed, you can even ignore the most permanent issues with your application, again and again

It really is the Blight of Open Source

24 Jul 2023 at 19:18 | Open on tech.lgbt
Aranjedeath

@ShadowJonathan not that unhinged. I am pleased to have followed bugs for 10, sometimes almost 15 years, and see them resolved. Nothing warms my heart more.

24 Jul 2023 at 19:16 | Open on hachyderm.io
Sinjo ✌🏻💖

@ShadowJonathan I agree with your opinion that they suck to begin with, but I would also ban any counter-bot like that in a heartbeat

24 Jul 2023 at 19:20 | Open on tech.lgbt
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@Sinjo these bots would run via the users' accounts, and simply on every instance a stale bot says "we're marking this as stale if no further activity occurs", the bot program would simply say "Not stale." In the comments to undo the stale period, maybe with a link to the site

24 Jul 2023 at 19:21 | Open on tech.lgbt
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"This issue has now been marked as stale and will be closed if no further activity occurs.

Thank you for your contributions."

Statements dreamed up by the utterly soulless

24 Jul 2023 at 19:26 | Open on tech.lgbt
Svenskagen64.exe :blobhaj_flag_transgender: :trans_furr_white:

@ShadowJonathan bless u :blobfoxfloofdevil: :blobfoxheartcute:

24 Jul 2023 at 20:37 | Open on tech.lgbt
Liana :v_trans: :v_kirb:

@ShadowJonathan Ok so I never heard of stalebots but I'm guessing this is referring to the automated closing of issues that get ignored and not solved?

Like, how when I google a very specific problem with a project, I find an issue that didn't get solved and got closed as if it didn't exist?

24 Jul 2023 at 21:08 | Open on tech.lgbt
agatha :flag_transgender:

@ShadowJonathan fuck stalebots all my homies hate statebots

24 Jul 2023 at 22:26 | Open on tech.lgbt
Katze

@ShadowJonathan Don't respond to the stalebot in the issue, create a new issue titled "issue # was marked as stale" instead :blobCat_wink_tongue_out:​

25 Jul 2023 at 9:28 | Open on catcatnya.com
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