@publicvoit I tried orgmode in Emacs. For about 6 months....

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@publicvoit I tried orgmode in Emacs. For about 6 months. I just can’t get used to the way Emacs works. On many levels from user interface to configuration and the steep learning curve. What’s an app I can use orgmode just as good which is not Emacs?
Life’s too short to dwell in config files, even though it can be fun ;-)

Like 12 Jul 2023 at 6:31 | Wall-to-wall | Open on indieweb.social

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Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

@frank Maybe this would have helped? https://karl-voit.at/2020/01/20/start-using-orgmode/

I don't think the learning courve is as bad as many people perceive. Most people seem to be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of options. Once you understand that you can ignore most of them from start, it might be easier.

In the long run, any effort spent with Emacs is well invested because you don't have to lose data, migrate workflows from discontinued tools and so forth. It's a matter of perspective. HTH

12 Jul 2023 at 6:40 | Open on graz.social

neuro_flamee

@publicvoit @frank I've been using org mode for awhile and dont use emacs for anything but that really. The one thing that makes me consider switching to Obsidian is that it has a nice mobile app, and while I've been using Orgzly on my phone getting them to play nice has not been smooth.

12 Jul 2023 at 7:36 | Open on neuro.cooking

Frank Meeuwsen

@publicvoit Thanks, I know your series and appreciate them! Your blog is in my feedreader :-)
I was indeed overwhelmed by the amount of options. The thing I found out for myself (n=1) is I find it hard to make a distinction between what to ignore and what I should get into muscle memory.

I still have positive feelings for Emacs, its philosophy and the power of orgmode. Yet I remain drawn to Obsidian because for me it is easier to step in and just use.

12 Jul 2023 at 7:43 | Open on indieweb.social

Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

@frank Oh, yes. Obsidian ist clearly more optimized for "getting to run fast".

If you're thinking in decades, that's not that relevant any more. 😉

And yes: Emacs doesn't support novice users that much in terms of "please do ignore almost all except ...".

Muscle memory: true. My situation got much better when I adapted hydras as personal cheatsheets. So I don't have to memorize bindings and I have an option to re-discover functionality with that.

12 Jul 2023 at 8:30 | Open on graz.social

Pavel Korytov :emacs:

@frank @publicvoit Probably nothing "just as good", but I'd go with some self-hosted Notion clone if I weren't able to use org mode. E.g. https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE

12 Jul 2023 at 7:38 | Open on emacs.ch