@fl0_id @cwebber I can unfortunately count on one hand the number of people I've had deep thoughtful conversations about the language, and those conversations all have to happen in private because of the scores and scores and scores of assholes who have to butt in on every little detail to evangelize. Don't tell try to minimize the problem, you wont endear me to your point of view by telling me everything I've seen with my own eyes somehow isn't real.
@fl0_id @cwebber but you are probably correct on your second point, which is that all of those people are going to move on to the next Next Big Thing once rust loses its luster. Right now rust's community feels a lot like how things were with Haskell about 8 or so years ago. Lots of master debaters proselyting. It almost feels like they all jumped for rust at some point. Maybe that's what happened to go, too.