@fl0_id @cwebber digression aside, this a "a few bad apples spoils the bunch" type of situation, because everyone who puts up with it eventually internalizes it and starts doing it. You see friends get hooked by it and start posting self righteous opinions. I've been harassed by people I thought were friends just by thinking aloud about evolving my own C++ application design philosophy to be more resilient to memory safety bugs.