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Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

Have you ever edited #Wikipedia? :blobhaj_thinking:

(Boost for some reach? 🥺)

Anonymous poll

Poll

Yes I have
3,194
59.5%
No I haven't
2,175
40.5%
5,369 people voted.
Voting ended 13 Jul 2023 at 10:18.
157 comments
Mia Rose Winter :v_greyace:​

@theresnotime I have corrected some entry on an lgbt list about a character that was wrongly claimed to be a femboy, although only using she/her the entire movie and all the ppl around her only refering to her as a woman, there was just one scene were it was noted that she got different parts

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@MiaWinter god that sort of topic often descends into edit warring over the silliest stuff.. 🥴

Mia Rose Winter :v_greyace:​

@efi @theresnotime well, if you like iseka anime (or to be presicely, parodies of such) and don't mind a little fanservice (par for the course when making fun of isekai) konosuba is really fun, and the person it talked about is the villain in the movie, so there is one scene that can be seen a bit transphobic, but it's bc the main character is an asshole and it's just used as another scene to make him look like an asshole, since every single other person is never transphobic to her

Teh404Gal :neocat_trans:

@theresnotime 100% votes, wikieditors sweep
Edit: welp that fell

Teh404Gal :neocat_trans:

@theresnotime also wiki confessions i once got an entire sub block for my isp banned from editing because when i was little my sisters pestered me with soy luna or miraculous (dont remember) and i got mad and attempted multiple times to nuke the wiki page, got around the ban by power cycling the router

Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤

@theresnotime I cannot lie, I've touched a few minor things anonymously

queerthoughts

@theresnotime The only edits I really made were correcting some chemical formulae on wiki pages of minerals. Sometimes I feel like I should get more involved in editing Wikipedia, though.

Liv Pink

@theresnotime I remember the days when nobody was logging in to make edits... good times 😹

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@kalikiana oh that's interesting! Logged out edits still make up a good percentage of total edits afaik! :3

serxka

@theresnotime@wikis.world My one Wikipedia claim to fame is editing a small error in the address calculation of an instruction for an obscure CPU

stereo griever

@theresnotime it took me a bit of time to realize that "edit" means more than just "fix typos and obvious incorrect/outdated information". I've had it similarly with open source, but it took me less time.

but yeah, realizing that even stuff like "this language version does not indicate she's a corrupt [redacted]" is something I *can* and even *should* fix *myself*, kinda blew my mind

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@selfisekai I'd personally say fixing typos and obvious incorrect information is as much "editing" as anything else :3

Freya

@theresnotime Someone was *wrong* on the internet. I had to issue a correction :blobcatTriumph:

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@freya (inb4 that's all Wikipedia editors are... people who like to correct folx on the internet 😅)

Mika :dvb_dresden: :bisexual:

@theresnotime Only to fix obvious minor grammar errors/typos, I don't have an account 🙈

Katherine 🌱

@theresnotime I'm not ashamed to say I had a ton of edits in Animal Planet's Wikipedia page to correct and add show information 😳🤭

DELETED

@theresnotime
Created a name clearification page once. Next level sh1t. 😎

Chris Young

@theresnotime I think I edited about two words into an article once, they probably got edited back within minutes.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@confusedbunny aw I'd hope not, as long as it was constructive :3

Chris Young

@theresnotime I have a feeling it got edited back and I changed it again because I knew I was right. So long ago now, can't remember what so can't go and check on it!

Duke

@theresnotime I added a bit of pop culture trivia about a godawful place, that no one does or should ever care about. And now you've just reminded me there's another article that I need to amend.

Duke

@theresnotime I'm trying, but the damn thing's blocking my IP address! And this is even after I killed the VPN. 😕 It's 4 am here, so I think I'll try again after I'm actually awake.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@DukeDuke good idea, get some sleep! :p but let me know if you're still having issues, we might be able to assign you "IP Block Exemption" (w.wiki/J6b)

Obscuredavid

@theresnotime
About 15 years ago I gave a presentation to some academic librarians on Wikipedia. They watched in horror as I edited a page (on table-tennis) in front of them.

13 barn owls in a trench coat

@theresnotime Yes, but they almost always got reverted to something incorrect by someone who was guarding "their" entry, so I stopped.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@HauntedOwlbear urgh, that's annoying to hear, I'm sorry :/ could always be worth trying again some time (and letting me know if it happens!)

13 barn owls in a trench coat

@theresnotime thanks! I'll serious consider it. It was a while ago that I last tried.

Kevin Karhan :verified:

@theresnotime yes but any edits got yeeted by a Swiss "Men's Rights Activist" including appeals and discussion of the edits.

Never bothered since then...

sebsauvage

@theresnotime
Yes I have, but I won't touch it ever again.

sebsauvage

@theresnotime
I was editing a page about Generative Art. There was a section of relevant websites and software.

WK Editor reproached me for adding a link to my (free) software. They removed my edit.

But in the links, they had no problem leaving a link to a commercial company who sells online training.

That was a slap in the face for me.

( ⬇️ )

sebsauvage

@theresnotime

So:
- You work on a subject, so you know well the topic.
- you add a link RELEVANT to the topic (to a non-commercial website).
- you get kicked because it's YOUR website.

Errr... of course it's my website. This is were I publish my projects.
Duh.

(PS: There are ZERO ads on my website. and I sell nothing.)

sebsauvage

@theresnotime

Basically, they didn't even CHECK if the added information was relevant to the topic.

They saw that the URL was ressembling my wikipedia pseudo, so they just blocked everything from me.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@sebsauvage urgh :/ there's a fine line on (potential/perceived) "Conflict of Interest" editing (w.wiki/td8) and sometimes folx push back harder than they should.. in this case, I'm not sure, but having a conversation with someone and figuring things out (even if the outcome was similar) costs us nothing in civility..

sebsauvage

@theresnotime
Oh they were not interested in talking. This was a "no".

This makes me wonder how much information gets pushed back just because editors don't even CHECK if the information is revelant (which... well.. should be the main concern).

(And how many good wills totally abandon Wikipedia edition because of this.)

Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️

@theresnotime And it always has been reverted by someone who took ownership of the article and doesn't allow any change whatsoever.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@forthy42 I'm seeing a pattern here.. I'm sorry that happened 😔

Yimby Earth

@theresnotime And @openstreetmap as well!
And gotten several fixes for local shared use paths in to google maps

:)

Theriac

@theresnotime@wikis.world
editing wiki is down to who has the most time to hover over the page, and that has come to mean whatever intern has been paid to sit there and revert changes.

Nour (aka Autistic Enby) 🏳️‍⚧️

@theresnotime not directly (feels like I need to know a lot of rules and stuff beforehand 😕), but a Wikipedia editor once added a redirect based on info I said, it was from "Valley of the Whales" to "Wadi El Hitan", a translation of a very unique archeological site in Egypt 😊

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@autistic_enby the tutorial (w.wiki/33N) has got a lot better recently, so the "really important" policies are fairly straightforward to get the gist of.. maybe time to give it a go..! :3

Luna :circleA:

@theresnotime Made an article once, got deleted, never tried again :blobCat_melt:

streetcoder

@theresnotime Tried but it was deleted because I updated the amount of employees according to the last official business report of the company I worked at and posted from a IP at this company. Therefore nobody trusted me telling the truth.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@streetcoder ahh darn, yeah conflicts of interest (w.wiki/td8) are taken fairly seriously — you could always try an edit request (w.wiki/4mmm) for someone to do on your behalf ^^

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@moldybasil aw yessss, contributing to Commons is really awesome too :3

Bara
@theresnotime I contributed the word chigger to the racial slurs article.
Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

Follow-up poll for those who have edited Wikipedia — was it a one-off thing, or do you edit semi-regularly still? (let's define semi-regularly as 1+ edits a month)

Elizaaaarghhhh :sheher:

@theresnotime
I have made more edits to Open street map and occasionally add changes to wikivoyage

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

And a final follow-up poll in this thread, for anyone who responded — would folx be interested in filling out a larger (anonymous & privacy-conscious) survey on their experiences?

[nb. I am doing this as a personal/volunteer thing, this ain't work, I don't bring work on fedi, but I will explicitly note that I work for the WMF]

Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

@theresnotime I fixed the JAMMA article that said it was wired up for two buttons per joystick (it's actually three). It got reverted. ㄟ(ツ)ㄏ

AutumnMeowMeow 🐈💗

@theresnotime

My foray into Wikipedia editing was brief and immediately regretted. From qodem.sourceforge.io/version1. :

>

but it was my first real encounter with the outside world. Honestly, it mostly sucked. I put Qodem on Freshmeat (remember that?). I created a Wikipedia page and almost immediately came to regret it (it wasn't notable you see), an experience I think SyncTERM ran into also.

It ended up being far more work to get my own article deleted.

I will never edit Wikipedia again.

@theresnotime

My foray into Wikipedia editing was brief and immediately regretted. From qodem.sourceforge.io/version1. :

>

but it was my first real encounter with the outside world. Honestly, it mostly sucked. I put Qodem on Freshmeat (remember that?). I created a Wikipedia page and almost immediately came to regret it (it wasn't notable you see), an experience I think SyncTERM ran into also.

kæt

@theresnotime I have an account, but I do it anonymously when they will let me. Otherwise you're dragged into "the community" which I think is inspired by Terry Gilliam's film Brazil. Usually I'm just fixing grammar or removing vandalism, though, but sometimes work-related stuff that I'm confident is wrong or I have a good additional reference for.

Schiffskatze

@theresnotime yes I did once or twice but the bullying put me off it 🙄

Ninja 🦝

@theresnotime I sporadically edit, usually in flurries as I rabbithole my way through a particular topic.

So I went with once or twice
But it’s probably more like a dozen or so things every six months for the last ten years

Sigma

@theresnotime@wikis.world I want to contribute. But I feel like there isn't that much I could add. 😅

Adam Williams

@theresnotime I have, a few times.
It was a waste of time; I'll never do it again.

Adam Williams

@theresnotime I updated/corrected information related to software I worked on, for which I wrote a ~600 page manual, to have the changes consistently reverted by a couple people who really wanted to have the world's most boring ideological debate, and I suspect had never engaged legal advise related to how Intellectual Property works.
Self-anointed Open Source legal 'experts' are a thing, and they will never surrender.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@whitemice yet another of those topic areas which end up having the most silly debates 🙃

Geraldo Fernández, MLIS

@theresnotime yeah, I used to procrastinate in undergrad by doing major projects on articles about the Bahá’í Faith and Shia Islam, two interests of mine.

Geraldo Fernández, MLIS

@theresnotime this toot is a good reminder that I really enjoy the process, I oughta get back into it. It’s be a good activity to work on during downtime at work when I’m expected to staff a library service desk, but don’t have a project to work on while waiting for people to need my help.

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@yerald you absolutely should get back into it if you can! meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM has some specific stuff on libraries too...

Geraldo Fernández, MLIS

@theresnotime I’ve thought about doing some work on library science pages, but the basics are in such disarray currently it’s hard to know where to start. There’s just a ton of redundant pages for the same basic things. Hmm, where to get back into editing…

Nils Belde

@theresnotime i have even created some pages back in 2003.

Deuchnord

@theresnotime yes, most of the time to fix a typo or a wording or to add some missing sources to existing text.

doublejay

@theresnotime I actually wrote an article, 20 years ago. They had next to no content.

It got ‘improved’ so much much over the following couple of years, as the terminally online professional internetters took over, I swore never to contribute again . And I haven’t .

Sammy (is just a fox 🦊)

@doublejay isn't the point to have your article(s) expanded on and improved? (or were these "improvements"..?) :blobhaj_thinking:

Rad 💛🤍💜🖤 He/They

@theresnotime Easiest poll answer ever!

Nearly 20 year veteran with over 10 000 edits.

Jourei

@theresnotime I sure have once, some nuances that I know as fact through my work.
Someone sent me a message asking to cite sources to stealthy edits like this. I have absolutely no idea how to reply to them or how to send messages to others, I did my damnest to google/figure it out but according to my observations, that's not a thing on Wikipedia...
I am spooked and will probably never edit again.

John O’Donnell

@theresnotime
Apparently I’m seven years into a ten year ban from editing Wikipedia, I have no idea why.
The person’s page I allegedly edited, I’ve never heard of.
Not that it bothers me, as I have no intention of editing anything, but I am curious as to what I am meant to of done.

Alan🦄

@theresnotime I got banned for edit warring in the article on william henry harrison

Seb35

@theresnotime By boosting this, I participate in biaising the results towards the "yes" 😋

Steve Hill 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

@theresnotime Yes, but kinda gave up once the deletionists started blowing away genuinely useful articles that I had contributed to.

Malinux

@theresnotime I reallly should make an account. There's an error on the page on Theory X, theorized by Parfit. It's such a tiny area that it doesn't matter, but it bugs me as I did my Masters on the subject.

Grrrr, Darth Moose Shark

@theresnotime No, and sadly, the reason I haven't is that the people I know personally who have done a lot of Wikipedia editing were super-pedantic knobs about it. NOT saying this is true of everyone who contributes, but it made me very much not want to get involved.

Mo

@theresnotime wrote some articles in the very beginning but they have all been deleted within some minutes because they were not relevant. So I never tried again and even avoid to link to wikipedia 🤷‍♀️

DELETED

@theresnotime I added the rust hello world example to my language's Hello World wikipedia page

Daniel Brotherston

@theresnotime I wrote a short article for wikipedia a while back.

I submitted it for feedback. It was summarily deleted with zero comment and zero feedback.

I was pretty shocked. I asked in the forum what happened, and eventually they suggested I talk to the deleter.

Apparently it was not up to their 'standards' (which I knew). The deleter gave me some comments and I was like..."that's great, why didn't you tell me this instead of deleting it, and can you restore my draft so that I can implement your feedback?"

And they told me that in the morning they'd take a second look at it and see if there's anything in my draft worth "salvaging".

I told them not to bother and I'll never edit wikipedia again.

This isn't a unique problem, Stack Overflow, Quora, basically any user generated expertise systems with user moderation end up with anti-newbie policies which drive off new contributors.

@theresnotime I wrote a short article for wikipedia a while back.

I submitted it for feedback. It was summarily deleted with zero comment and zero feedback.

I was pretty shocked. I asked in the forum what happened, and eventually they suggested I talk to the deleter.

Apparently it was not up to their 'standards' (which I knew). The deleter gave me some comments and I was like..."that's great, why didn't you tell me this instead of deleting it, and can you restore my draft so that I can implement your feedback?"

Nike Leonhard

@theresnotime I have. But after some silly edit wars I won't do it any more. There are better ways to spend time and spread knowledge.

Peter Bindels

@theresnotime Have tried a few times, but Wikipedia really does not want me to have edited it so the changes keep getting reverted. Nothing malicious, just them trying not to have up-to-date info on recently happened things (like Queen Elizabeth dying etc).

KayleeSerenada 💖✨

@theresnotime no way, I do not edit Wikipedia. I tried a couple times long ago but there was a degree of specialty process and etiquette I didn't understand which made me feel like I was getting in trouble or doing something wrong. I'm not smart enough to make edits important enough to learn all the processes and be a part of the community in a meaningful way, so I just don't touch the edit button

RickNobodyBeinz

@theresnotime Just to be clear, it was MY #Wikipedia page that I edited.
I don't try editing other people's pages.
I'm just qualifying my vote, not judging you or anyone else...unless they try editing my page.
Thank you for the Poll.☺️
☮️💜☯️♾️🎵🎶🎶🎵

LeRoc

@theresnotime I edited intensively for around 10 years, then stopped (don't know how to fit that into your second poll 🙂 ). Happy to tell you more if needed.

Chuck, just Chuck

@theresnotime, I rewrote and added historical material to the wiki for the small town where I was born.

myrmepropagandist

@theresnotime I’ve made thousands of edits and I have PTSD from it.

OddOpinions5

@theresnotime

living up to my screen name, I normally block anyone who asks boost for reach, as it seems obnoxious

but anyway
I gave up editing wikipedia cause so many articles are so freaking bad, and I got tired of re re correcting people (In a small area of DNA I am an actual expert)

esp annoying are the math article intros which are almost never written at a level correct for a general encylopedia, but are written for a college math graduate

Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:

@theresnotime@wikis.world Several times. Nothing big, but a new paragraph or two or updating older info with newer variants.

Hans Zauner

Diese zweigestreifte Quelljungfer musste nach der Eiablage erst mal abhängen und chillen.

#Libelle #Odonata
#iNaturalist ID: inaturalist.org/observations/1

Zweigestreifte Quelljungfer
( Cordulegaster boltonii )
Lykrast

@theresnotime I added lot of info for Chess with different armies (the Ralph Betza chess variant) from my (at the time current) hyperfocus on chess variants and the website chessvariants.org
(chess variants with custom pieces are cool I wish I had someone to play them with)

Ems

@theresnotime for clarity, I edited my older brother's page for a joke. So not a grown up wiki edit.

The Cat Lady

@theresnotime I tried once, but was banned for "vandalism", all just because I tried to ADD to the article from a woman's perspective. Apparently women's viewpoints are not welcome on there.

Winterbay

@theresnotime Tend to poke at random musician pages when I find them out of date (like only listing albums as of 2005 or something like that) and also have been known to do minor grammar changes just because 🙂

Noah Cook

@theresnotime Yes, I tried. I gave up after the umpteenth time someone insisted on including Scientology propaganda in psych articles while insisting that I knew nothing about medicine.

Rebel 🏳️‍🌈

@theresnotime I got excited about Wikidata a while back and started to contribute. Suddenly I was “globally locked”. No idea why. That was that.

Elias Schwerdtfeger

@theresnotime Oh yes, I have. And I'm sure I'll never do it again.

Anne Ominous

@theresnotime many years ago, about 15? maybe, i edited a few pages and attempted to start a page. i was met with such fierce, furious resistance from a cohort of established male community members that i gave up and never tried again.

Rhombus Ticks

@theresnotime But I wont any more since the grognards who shadow run it like an 18th century Chinese Imperial Harem require learning a silo'd and narrow skill I have better things to do than learn

gavinisdie :troll:

@theresnotime I could not be trusted with editing on Wikipedia lmao

sjvn

@theresnotime I've tried, but I've gotten bounced every time, so I stopped bothering with it.

Abe the Honest

@theresnotime I actually reverted some vandalisms whenever I found them. Not much, but everything helps.

Luke Johnson

@theresnotime

Knowing the typical fedi clientele, I am entirely unsurprised at these results 😂

FWIW, I've edited Wikipedia a grand total of once. It was an incorrect formula for something on an obscure page, I can't remember exactly. Not something to cause an edit war!

Teknikal_Domain

@theresnotime Literally one edit, about the details about C-41 film development.

On a page I'm fairly certain gets next to 0 views because it's like 5 layers deep into film development.

Ase-modeus 🦌

@theresnotime got banned from editing because I edited over (read: corrected) a trusted editor's work with a non-english source about a non-english topic so that it said the same as the non-english article

R.

@theresnotime once I spoiled myself while reading the synopsis of a Ghibli film (not the English page) so I rephrased the paragraph, removing the spoiler and retaining the information.
I'd like to think of this as my most honorable act, since I saved someone else the headache from learning a critical moment of the film. 😂

:bun: Stellar 🇫🇷

@theresnotime@wikis.world i am banned from editing wikipedia because i tried to spread misinfo

Commodore Yasmiga CD32 :flag_agender:🏳️‍⚧️

@theresnotime I created two articles for a pop-punk band about their EPs and they got removed some some time later 😔 (I did find original sources and formatted then properly. IDK what happened since they had been up for a few years after I posted them)

But I mostly do spelling and grammar anyway

baguettelady

@theresnotime Does editing the page for my local representative count? He was the founder of the charter school I attended and I added some pertinent information from that time. Like when he made me clean up the local dump site behind the school. I had to clean up used cat litter.
He has a reputation locally for being a slumlord

Paul-Gabriel Wiener

@theresnotime I greatly dislike the site. I try not to use it except as a stepping stone. It upsets me that people treat it as equal to a fact-checked reference source. But I have edited it once or twice in the last couple of decades. Not more than that, though.

JunOS
@theresnotime tried to once cause livonia from arma 3 contact was missing its flag in the list of fictional nations, but wound up being a bit too confused by the process and giving up
WolfH

@theresnotime I did edit and even create new articles in the early days, like 15 years ago. Have stopped a long time ago though.

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