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Erik Moeller

Take it as a lesson from Wikipedia and other community-based projects: effort you put into making the fediverse better goes towards a community that will carry it forward for years to come.

Effort to "create a presence" on the latest Twitter alternative boosted by venture capital (or by competitors smelling blood in the water) is free labor for rich people.

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SearingTruth

@eloquence

I sincerely don't know how to "create a presence" on Mastodon fellow citizen Erik Moeller.

It doesn't seem organized in a way that enables it as there aren't even basic collaborations like threads, or disclosures of boosts or favorites.

It seems much more driven by the emotions of posters in any given instance, at any given moment.

Which is a simultaneously a precious blessing and terrible curse.

Perhaps a granular approach instead?

Where users could choose the amount of collaboration they wished?

Now that would be revolutionary.
ST

"The best of us.

Which has always been the most of us."
SearingTruth

@eloquence

I sincerely don't know how to "create a presence" on Mastodon fellow citizen Erik Moeller.

It doesn't seem organized in a way that enables it as there aren't even basic collaborations like threads, or disclosures of boosts or favorites.

It seems much more driven by the emotions of posters in any given instance, at any given moment.

Erik Moeller

@SearingTruth

You can do single-level threads like on Twitter, and you can see favs and boosts. For example here are the boosts of the post you replied to:

social.coop/@eloquence/1106636

This is accessible in the desktop web UI through the small boost/favorite icons below each post in detail view; different mobile apps may handle it differently.

SearingTruth

@eloquence

Thank you for the information fellow citizen Erik Moeller. But the typical functions, and topic organization, most people are familiar with are missing or obscure in Mastodon.

Please don't get me wrong, I love Mastodon. And have great hope for it.

And have faith that it will evolve along with its users.
ST

"Together my friend.

That's how humanity will win."
SearingTruth

sandywb14

@eloquence ❤️Community trumps ego every time.

PointyFluff

@eloquence

I would argue the Solar-System at large runs on Open Source software.

#opensource #programming #space #porkncheeze

Ranger of the Multiverse

@PointyFluff It does seem to track considering manifestion, faith, and the like.

Barry Schwartz 🫖

@eloquence YES!

I put in a lot of effort for ROSETTA CODE.

I would do nothing of the kind for a money making effort.

James R.

@eloquence Erik, as another Wikipedian from way back in the day (I was delighted to see you're still Eloquence here - I was/am Jwrosenzweig at Wikipedia), I couldn't agree more. Just this week I ended up working with two editors I disagreed with, who themselves had just gotten out of an edit war, but the three of us worked from baseline Wikiquette and found common ground together. Felt like the old days - and reminded me of what you say here. Build a community, don't use a product (or be one!).

Thaiis Thei 𓁟

@eloquence #Wikipedia is not a poster child for a good community. It has serious partisan and toxicity issues.

Kadin

@eloquence If the hardcore self-promoters and "personal brand" / monetize-all-the-things people all end up somewhere else… I'm not sure I'm going to be exactly bothered by that.

I don't have a problem with businesses (even "brands") in my timeline, and I used to follow a bunch on #Twitter. But the grinding-for-followers stuff (or Google's equivalent on YouTube, grinding for subscribers) is super tedious. IMO it encourages the creation of really marginal "content", not conversation.

Sparky 💡

@eloquence Also, Threads is run by bloody Meta, which is just Old Man Facebook wearing a cheap rubber mask.

Do not sign up.
Do not federate.
Do not give them your data.

Tiffany Li

@eloquence generally agree, but unfortunately that free labor on VC-funded apps is sometimes necessary for other things, like job recognition

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