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Jasper

@kravietz @drq there were lists of targets for nukes, and i think they'd be followed if nuclear war actually broke out.

The consequences of nuclear war, even ignoring radation, just the areas of cities leveled, burned can be calculated.. nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ (probably the W53 a good guess, "moderate" blast damage says "most buildings collapse" ftr, it's ~500× Hiroshima..)

18 Nov 2021 at 16:21 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.nl
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Dr. Quadragon ❌

@jasper And what does it have to do with Greenpeace stifling adoption of nuclear energy at all.

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18 Nov 2021 at 16:22 | Open on mastodon.ml
Jasper

@drq @kravietz you say that as if it would not be a valid reply if it had nothing to do with that.

The post i replied to could easily be interpreted to say or insinuate a downplaying of the dangers of nukes.

18 Nov 2021 at 17:16 | Open on mastodon.nl
Dr. Quadragon ❌

@jasper So, in your mind, an NPP = a Nuke?

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18 Nov 2021 at 17:18 | Open on mastodon.ml
Jasper

@drq @kravietz don't know what an NPP is but presumably not.

18 Nov 2021 at 17:19 | Open on mastodon.nl
Dr. Quadragon ❌
Jasper

@drq We're being really inefficient, but @kravietz mentions fear of nuclear weapons and then a lot about alleged irrationality about it. It's easy to interpret that as the fear of the bombs being irrational too. I am not saying he means that, but i wanted to point out that's not the case..(1/2)

18 Nov 2021 at 17:27 | Open on mastodon.nl
Jasper

@drq @kravietz
It is entirely valid to worry about power plants being a proliferation risk, based on materials they can make. Modern ones claim it's not as likely for them, but i remain skeptical. It is not like ways to make precursors from other processes would be widely advertised, especially not to win an argument about nuclear power plants that aren't going to be built. They'd be kept secret.. (2/2)

18 Nov 2021 at 17:27 | Open on mastodon.nl
Dr. Quadragon ❌

@jasper The science behind nuclear fission is not all that hard for the people who are in the know. If a modern closed-circuit LWR NPP could make weapons-grade nuclear fuel, this would have been really, REALLY hard to keep a secret, because there's a lot of people working in the field. You can't build a conspiracy around common knowledge.

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18 Nov 2021 at 17:41 | Open on mastodon.ml
kravietz 🦇

@drq @jasper Ah, here’s a nice infographic I couldn’t find yesterday - there are 32 countries that rely on nuclear power, but only 7 of them have nuclear weapons. Plus, there are 2 countries that have weapons (Israel, North Korea) but never had #nuclear power.
19 Nov 2021 at 10:22 | Open on agora.echelon.pl
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