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Mx Amber Alex

@EU_Commission how does it reduce e-waste that I have to replace dozens of cables and buy dozens of adapters now?

Incompetent clowns. All you're doing is line the accessory industry's pockets.

29 Jun 2023 at 8:16 | Wall-to-wall | Open on eldritch.cafe
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Andrew Wigglesworth

@amberage Didn't you get the memo? The climate disaster is not because of huge polluting and wasteful industries and imposed patterns of consumption by undemocratic corporations and the governments they own ... it's *YOU* using micro USB instead of USB C, you fiend!!

29 Jun 2023 at 8:30 | Open on mastodon.social
Emmanuel Revah

@amberage

@EU_Commission

No, you can keep your cables and adaptors. This only applies to new devices, which means that when, and if, you do buy a new device in the future, you won't need to have a special cable for each.

I currently have a laptop, a phone, both over 5 years old, ear buds, and a BT speaker, all with USB-C - now, when I go on a trip, I only need to bring ONE cable and ONE charger.

Also, this isn't Twitter, no need for insults - proper discussion is fine.

29 Jun 2023 at 10:47 | Open on framapiaf.org
Mx Amber Alex

@manurevah @EU_Commission well, on every day, I have like ten devices hooked up via USB, of the maybe thirty USB devices I own.

If I, at any point, want to replace those, I would have to gradually buy more and more USB-C cables (or A-to-C adapters) to use them, and stop using (eventually throwing out) perfectly fine USB-A cables.

They should have made USB-A and mini-A the standard, because those have been in circulation for decades.

Replacing a well-established standard for which billions of cables exist with a new standard that will require world-wide replacement and fabrication of billions of new cables is everything but not "reducing waste".

USB-C is a bullshit trend, a solution looking for a problem; its 30 pins as opposed to 4 make life harder for DIY makers, and its one-size-fits-all approach to power/video/audio/data makes for confusing wiring in which you can't at once tell the type of cable you're holding because it could be anything.

All-around failure, and effectively mandating the purchase of tons of new cables and hardware is the biggest favour the EU has done for the industry.

Sure, it helps for chargers (if you only charge one device at a time – I'm currently, as we are speaking, charging five), but it doesn't do fuck all reduction for data.

Classic case of "the EU tries to regulate things they know fuck all about and makes everything worse, as usual".

@manurevah @EU_Commission well, on every day, I have like ten devices hooked up via USB, of the maybe thirty USB devices I own.

If I, at any point, want to replace those, I would have to gradually buy more and more USB-C cables (or A-to-C adapters) to use them, and stop using (eventually throwing out) perfectly fine USB-A cables.

29 Jun 2023 at 10:52 | Open on eldritch.cafe
Mx Amber Alex

@manurevah and I'll insult @EU_Commission as much as I like, they've consistently fucked up tech matters for years (see also: upload filters, chat surveillance, regularly trying to ban encryption), they've been a pawn of greedy corporations for as long as I can remember, calling them incompetent clowns is the mildest possible insult I could have come up with.

They're greedy, short-sighted, industry-pleasing, people-betraying arseholes who are more interested in collecting bribes and erecting a police state than in serving the people who elected them (or rather, the commission isn't elected by the people at all), they're a bunch of fascist-pleasing scum who are happy to curtail freedoms while ignoring literal nazi regimes in Europe, and they can fuck right off.

@manurevah and I'll insult @EU_Commission as much as I like, they've consistently fucked up tech matters for years (see also: upload filters, chat surveillance, regularly trying to ban encryption), they've been a pawn of greedy corporations for as long as I can remember, calling them incompetent clowns is the mildest possible insult I could have come up with.

29 Jun 2023 at 10:56 | Open on eldritch.cafe
Emmanuel Revah

@amberage @EU_Commission

I see.. well... Too much to unpack, and, I'm not on the Fediverse for anger-based social interactions and multi-directional defend-and-accuse based "discussion", so ,I'll just let you do your thing.

Take care.

29 Jun 2023 at 11:13 | Open on framapiaf.org
Adam Chovanec

@amberage @EU_Commission You don’t have to replace anything, you can still charge you appliances with ehatever you already have.

29 Jun 2023 at 11:28 | Open on infosec.exchange
Mx Amber Alex

@staticnoisexyz I know that ^ but for anything I replace in the future, I will have to buy new cables (or new cables will come with it, same result). Rather than mandate the long-established USB-A, for which billions of cables are in use world-wide, the EU is mandating a new bullshit standard, which will necessitate world-wide replacement of hardware.

Great gift for the tech industry, horrible for reducing waste.

29 Jun 2023 at 11:29 | Open on eldritch.cafe
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