@adora This is as equally true as those who need water given to them.
You ought to be helped, but also given the dignity to help yourself.
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@adora Here is a non-analogy then: There is someone in jail who is dehydrated and needs water. I would not say their isolation is a self-fulfilling prophesy. I read everything up to its maximum and believe that. There are no sides. We are all victims. And I don't recognize your post as the subtoot it is, because given this is a public form I will hold all ideas with the same accuntability as I do reverence.
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@Zenith for sure. It's not really a subtoot as much as sadness. I have so many friends who are desperately hurting and I'm doing my best I agree we're all victims here. I'm just so damn sad to see anyone suffer. I wish I could help more |
@Zenith for sure.
The metaphor does break down a little though.
I get it. I don't blame either side. It's shit to have to beg constantly for stuff, to feel alone, to feel hopeless. I want nothing more than to help those people.
But I can't really push people to associate with someone in a toxic pushing people away spiral.
It's desperately hard to be in someone's life who turns every conversation into a fight, who intentionally does hurtful things, who lashes out when good things happen....
It's a lot to ask from people and the kind of people who stayed as long as they did are probably at the end of their ability already.
I wish I could fix things. I hate leaving people in distress. But I can't help people who won't let me come close enough to.
So yeah, that's kind of my plea - hoping people can find just enough faith in humanity, for a moment, to let help in through the door.
@Zenith for sure.
The metaphor does break down a little though.
I get it. I don't blame either side. It's shit to have to beg constantly for stuff, to feel alone, to feel hopeless. I want nothing more than to help those people.
But I can't really push people to associate with someone in a toxic pushing people away spiral.