Gregory's Serverpeople who are opining that Facebook joining the fedi is okay didn't live through Google killing XMPP. Or anything Microsoft ever did.
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  @PetraOleum @aurynn they both helped kill both XMPP and RSS. The XMPP case is particularly cogent because the rhetoric used at the time was exactly the same used now for AP  @aurynn @aurynn I maintain that the _millisecond_ that some product manager at google believes that federation is no longer necessary for the gmail business, smtp interoperability will be replaced by some kind of (probably initially SMTP-shaped) "submit mail to gmail" interface that they can then extend arbitrarily. @aurynn Furthermore I also maintain that the exodus of human conversation away from email makes this date move forwards.  @aurynn so annoying when that was still happening: Google used established XMPP standards for plain text messages and nothing else, but they managed to convince everyone it was all the other implementations that were broken. @aurynn Google is also in the process of killing email, but nobody seems to have noticed yet. @jonathanharker @aurynn Microsoft with their outlook.com & hotmail.com blocking legit email from those that don't send enough email seems to be ahead of Google in terms of destroying it. Ah yes Additional Microsoft IIS HTTP status codes 400.7 or 401.502 or Exchange’s SMTP 550 5.2.0 to make the existing codes much more difficult to interpret. @aurynn I don’t think they’ll be any better this time.   @ajft USB C is a shitty idea on so.many levels… There's much more better solution… No thanks, I'd rather not have facecrap and twitter come and pollute ActivityPub, with their non-standard proprietary crap, intrusive data collection and marketing spam. Let alone the toxic way their "publication" systems work… Exactly! In joining the Fediverse, expect Meta to follow the Microsoft Playbook: 1) Agree to international standard Or 1) Make all the right noises about collaboration and Open Source   |
@aurynn Didn't facebook help kill xmpp too?