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dansup

Pixelfed does not display text-only posts in timelines, regardless of who we block, P92 posts won't be seen in Pixelfed feeds.

Furthermore, instead of an outright ban, pixelfed.social/art will silence P92, allowing users to opt to follow P92 accounts, or use a domain block to make that choice themselves.

I hope this clears up any confusion.

17 comments
Boo Ramsey 🧛🏻‍♂️🧟‍♂️👻🎃

@dansup Does this mean if you follow someone (on for example Mastodon) from your Pixelfed account, you will only see their posts if they include a photo?

dansup

@ramsey Yes, or if you were mentioned. You can search and view text-only posts in Pixelfed, but they are not displayed on feeds.

Monew

@dansup @ramsey can you make it a toggle setting for those that do want to see text only posts in their timeline?

scott f

@dansup would this address concerns about Facebook scraping/data harvesting of Pixelfed accounts, or do you have something else in mind for that?

Corbin Davenport

@scott @dansup If the posts are public, there’s no possible precaution against anyone harvesting them.

scott f

@corbin not true. Precautions include rate limiting, prohibitions on scraping in the terms of service, and machine learning to detect bot-like behavior and force captchas before consuming more content, all of which Facebook uses on its own sites. Could also block or limit Facebook-owned IP ranges.

Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)

@scott @corbin Yeah, I would second this to say it really, really isn't true. Of course anyone can break the rules of any website by scraping it but there are technical ways to recognise and limit that. And it certainly doesn't mean we should just leave doors wide open and not bother making very clear that unauthorized collection of data is not an acceptable use of the service. That people can break rules doesn't mean there's no point having rules.

Corbin Davenport

@scott I don’t see how most of that is feasible while retaining AP interoperability, especially since FB has plenty of IPs and server power to throw around, but more power to the devs if they can make that happen

Gaelan Steele

@corbin @scott worth noting that AUTHORIZED_FETCH is also a thing, which (aiui) would require scraping to come from something vaguely shaped like a fedi instance, so they'd have to burn domains instead of just IPs
still fairly cheap at Facebook's scale, mind you!
in any case, maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I'd be surprised if facebook resorted to outright ban evasion

NixiИ

@scott @corbin geez! do you have a temperature controlled room dedicated to federated services at home? these recommendations are not affordable! or is this sarcasm?

scott f

@nergal @corbin basic rate limiting is built into Mastodon and adding a no scraping rule to the TOS costs nothing.

SpaceLifeForm

@dansup

The problem I see is that someone may want to point out an issue using text only.

MntyFrsh (James Mincey)

@dansup Speaking of which, is there any way to see what instances are banned, silenced, etc (and why) on Pixelfed?

I'm not able to find or follow a few photographers on mstdn.jp, and I assume that users there who follow me on Mastodon won't see my boosts from Pixelfed.social.

Allyn

@dansup
I don’t see how you can look at what #Meta are doing right now:
1. Billions of € in GDPR fines
2. Fuelling hate speech promotion of that content
3. Facilitating election fraud
4. Cambridge Analytica

To name just a few items, and think it’s a good idea to platform them. Or to collaborate with them, in any way.
They have proven themselves as bad faith actors time and again.

They’re not deserving of any more “chances”.

@dansup
I don’t see how you can look at what #Meta are doing right now:
1. Billions of € in GDPR fines
2. Fuelling hate speech promotion of that content
3. Facilitating election fraud
4. Cambridge Analytica

To name just a few items, and think it’s a good idea to platform them. Or to collaborate with them, in any way.
They have proven themselves as bad faith actors time and again.

Tomás

@dansup this is genius, keeping power on people. Another time you playing the an adult-role in a playground 🤝🏼

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