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poswald

@darius Now the only list feature I miss from twitter is being able to have lists of non-followed people. I had people I wanted to read or keep track of, but didn’t want to personally ‘endorse’ in other people’s suggestions with a follow. I heard that this was sometimes a channel for abuse so it may never come to mastodon.

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rakoo
@poswald @darius You can already do that with lists: you don't need to follow someone to add them to a list. You'll just not get newest activities in real time
Jonathan T

@poswald @darius It could be done in a manner that mitigates abuse if you provided people with the option to opt into it. That way, organisations and high profile people who get abuse anyway, listing or no listing, can opt to be included on lists without a follow while those who don't want it can stay opted out.

poswald

@JonnyT @darius admittedly I don’t know much about the abuse of it but I feel like there are a lot of good uses for it that aren’t abusive, especially if it’s a private list. If someone is sharing a list around for abuse, then banning them or their instance seems like a suitable solution. Same as someone inciting mobs via retoots or quote toots. I think there are already 3rd party tools for tracking lists, and a spreadsheet or custom software would do it too.

Jonathan T

@poswald @darius The abuse vector is that vile people can create lists to export and share among themselves, to make it easier to target specific people for pile-ons - happened a lot on Twitter. If you can't be added to lists without being followed, and you also lock your account to require a review before someone can follow you, you can better prevent that from being an attack mechanism.

Jonathan T

@poswald @darius Trolls can bypass personal or instance blocks by creating multiple accounts on many different instances, and being able to easily import a list into each account makes it trivial for one account to pick up where another was blocked or removed.

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