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Darius Kazemi

Doing a little victory dance because today #Hometown's "exclusive lists" feature was merged into Mastodon. Which means once it is part of a release, that is one less thing for me to maintain. Everything is going according to plan :AngelDevil:

Link to github PR: github.com/mastodon/mastodon/p

Link to human-facing exclusive lists explainer: github.com/hometown-fork/homet

39 comments
all tsun no dere

@darius slowly making masto not an abomination one sneaky merge at a time :goodjob:

Vyr Cossont 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

@darius hey congrats! feels like it's been about a hundred years from proposal to upstream…

George Hotelling

@darius ooh ooh do instance-only visibility next

flere-imsaho

@george @darius this is already in glitch-soc, so it should be relatively easy.

Darius Kazemi

@mawhrin @george it's already in Hometown too - it's not a matter of the tech, it's a matter of persuasion

flere-imsaho

@darius @george …and some glad-handing, unfortunately. yes, i know.

matt_panaro

@mawhrin @george @darius oh, huh: I thought I'd have to wait for this to trickle down/over: is it automatic in glitch-social, or do I have to toggle something? (congrats Darius)

rakoo
@darius I'm still not using lists and your explanation feels like a you're-only-using-10%-of-your-brain moments. Turning a microblogging platform into a generic comms center sure is interesting
susannah

@darius I’m so looking forward to using this!!!

brennen

@darius this does look like it goes some distance towards making lists actually usable. nice work.

David Underwood

@darius exclusive lists are brilliant, this is a well deserved inclusion in upstream Mastodon

Andrew Briscoe

@darius Congratulations! That does sound like a needed feature, good job.

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@darius my favorite thing I learned about Hometown is that it’s a “universal reader”. I have been looking for a phrase that captures how I use Fediverse and how that scope can naturally expand, and this is a great phrase for that.

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“Hometown is microblogging for writing, but its goal is to accept many content types for reading. So while I don't plan to let Hometown users publish massive blog posts, I would like your Hometown instance to be your one-stop shop for viewing all sorts of things on the Fediverse” github.com/hometown-fork/homet 🎇🚀

@darius my favorite thing I learned about Hometown is that it’s a “universal reader”. I have been looking for a phrase that captures how I use Fediverse and how that scope can naturally expand, and this is a great phrase for that.

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“Hometown is microblogging for writing, but its goal is to accept many content types for reading. So while I don't plan to let Hometown users publish massive blog posts, I would like your Hometown instance to be your one-stop shop for viewing all sorts of things on the Fediverse”

wakest ⁂

@darius wtf thats amazing, can't wait for this to be rolled out everywhere!

poswald

@darius That’s excellent, thank you. I think this feature was implemented client-side in @ivory so now they have something to tie it to server-side.

poswald

@darius Now the only list feature I miss from twitter is being able to have lists of non-followed people. I had people I wanted to read or keep track of, but didn’t want to personally ‘endorse’ in other people’s suggestions with a follow. I heard that this was sometimes a channel for abuse so it may never come to mastodon.

rakoo
@poswald @darius You can already do that with lists: you don't need to follow someone to add them to a list. You'll just not get newest activities in real time
Jonathan T

@poswald @darius It could be done in a manner that mitigates abuse if you provided people with the option to opt into it. That way, organisations and high profile people who get abuse anyway, listing or no listing, can opt to be included on lists without a follow while those who don't want it can stay opted out.

poswald

@JonnyT @darius admittedly I don’t know much about the abuse of it but I feel like there are a lot of good uses for it that aren’t abusive, especially if it’s a private list. If someone is sharing a list around for abuse, then banning them or their instance seems like a suitable solution. Same as someone inciting mobs via retoots or quote toots. I think there are already 3rd party tools for tracking lists, and a spreadsheet or custom software would do it too.

Jonathan T

@poswald @darius The abuse vector is that vile people can create lists to export and share among themselves, to make it easier to target specific people for pile-ons - happened a lot on Twitter. If you can't be added to lists without being followed, and you also lock your account to require a review before someone can follow you, you can better prevent that from being an attack mechanism.

Jonathan T

@poswald @darius Trolls can bypass personal or instance blocks by creating multiple accounts on many different instances, and being able to easily import a list into each account makes it trivial for one account to pick up where another was blocked or removed.

John Harris

@darius Yay! Thanks for continuing to maintain Hometown too, BTW!

Adam Dalliance

@darius Hurray! I have been hoping for that for ages. Presumably it'll reach Gitch too.

Darius Kazemi

@pre my understanding is glitch already has it, though a different implementation maybe?

Adam Dalliance

@darius Humm. When I installed Glitch there was a pull-request for it from Clare but it had never been merged, and it didn't work when I tried to merge it myself coz it was so old the codebase had changed too much.

Possibly things have changed since then but I can't see anything in any of the list settings.

Darius Kazemi

@pre this does track with people who use glitch replying to posts that say "glitch has it" with "huh I had no idea"

James Dreben

@darius@friend.camp TFW you don't have to maintain something anymore but it still gets maintained cause it's someone else's problem ☺️

Unixorn - 90% Snark by weight

@darius

Thanks, this is a feature I was just wanting, my home timeline has gotten a bit overgrown.

sam

@darius @tchambers This is gonna be so helpful, thank you!

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