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Andreas, DJ3EI, he/him

It happened to me a while ago: I had a discussion with someone who, after a while, decided they didn't want to think about my arguments any longer: I was blocked.

What I had not anticipated: I no longer had access to the other person's original toots, those that I had answered. My answers were now orphaned.

It did feel a bit rude to have that done to me.

You say I should not mind?

@feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone

15 Jun 2023 at 17:34 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.radio
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NecroBelch
Hippasus500 aka jwn2

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone
That the context of your reply is lost feels wrong to me, too. It’s an unmoored memory. It’s the uncomfortable feeling evoked in Regina Spektor’s song, “Eet”:

It’s like forgetting
The words to your favorite song

I minded when I discovered after the fact that I’d been blocked by an acquaintance over what I thought was a joke.

Apparently, they didn’t agree.

My choice, their choice, true. A dilemma.

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone
That the context of your reply is lost feels wrong to me, too. It’s an unmoored memory. It’s the uncomfortable feeling evoked in Regina Spektor’s song, “Eet”:

It’s like forgetting
The words to your favorite song

I minded when I discovered after the fact that I’d been blocked by an acquaintance over what I thought was a joke.

15 Jun 2023 at 18:12 | Open on federate.social
Butterbee

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone You can mind all you like. And it may have been rude. But you're not owed access to that person.

15 Jun 2023 at 18:23 | Open on mastodon.art
Andreas, DJ3EI, he/him

Agreed.

"Block as you want" seems to be part of the current Fediverse code of conduct. I feel that code could be improved upon, but admit I'm not sure how.

If blocking happens, one of the two people involved is probably being rude already. Maybe the code of conduct improvement I'd like to see needs a better world than the one where that happens, to begin with.

I'm uncertain.

@Butterbee @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone

15 Jun 2023 at 21:13 | Open on mastodon.radio
Butterbee

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone The rule applies to real life interactions as well though. Noone owes another person their attention, outside of items directly affecting that persons safety and wellbeing. It's NICE if people communicate why they need to disengage, but they have every right to do so regardless.

15 Jun 2023 at 22:01 | Open on mastodon.art
Jargoggles

@dj3ei
@feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone
Wait, are you saying that they were obligated to keep giving you attention? Otherwise, why on earth would you mind?

15 Jun 2023 at 21:26 | Open on mstdn.social
Andreas, DJ3EI, he/him

Blocking alters the record of what has happened. I might want to re-evaluate my own actions in the context of the conversation, and maybe learn a thing. That becomes more difficult as I no longer get to see the other person's old posts, including those directed to me or even privately sent to only me.

I'm not demanding someone keeps listening to my future musing if they don't want to.

@jargoggles @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone

16 Jun 2023 at 5:19 | Open on mastodon.radio
VivSmythe

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone but isn't that how personalised blocking of someone's user account on social media has always worked?

The entirety of the blocked account's content becomes invisible to the blocker (but not to others), and the entirety of the blocker's account content becomes invisible to the blockee (but not to others).

It's always been the main point of personal blocklists AIUI.

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone but isn't that how personalised blocking of someone's user account on social media has always worked?

The entirety of the blocked account's content becomes invisible to the blocker (but not to others), and the entirety of the blocker's account content becomes invisible to the blockee (but not to others).

15 Jun 2023 at 22:51 | Open on mastodon.au
bike

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone

There should be a way for you to access all your own toots, but the way I think about it, that's a software problem, not a people blocking people problem.

16 Jun 2023 at 0:31 | Open on regenerate.social
Elias Mårtenson

@dj3ei @feditips @rysiek @thekitmalone Probably. Your answers are going to end up being orphaned anyway, it's just the nature of federation. Scroll back a few months in someone's feed who don't purge their posts (such as my feed). Click on a random reply and it's highly likely the post it was a reply to is no longer available.

Someone blocking just causes that to happen quicker.

16 Jun 2023 at 4:18 | Open on functional.cafe
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