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Silve

@falcon @gracjan @fishcharlie @nf3xn

1. That happens all the time on Reddit. That will not be any different in a decentralized environment.

2. This is a quirk of ActivityPub, not specifically Mastodon. There are currently projects in the works to remedy this, and I think a few fediverse software already fix this behavior using server side workarounds.

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Falcon replied to Silve

@Silv @gracjan @fishcharlie @nf3xn

> That happens all the time on Reddit. That will not be any different in a decentralized environment.

Haven't had trouble with that in 10 years using Reddit. Some people might want to have a different group and create a separate, smaller community, but it's always easy to find/spot what's the main one. (maybe not for porn, but for anything else that has been true for me)

Silve replied to Falcon

@falcon @gracjan @fishcharlie @nf3xn

Ah, I was addressing the point of multiple communities existing, I didn't realize you were making a point about discoverability of remote communities.

ActivityPub is great for spreading information, but software such as Mastodon is terrible for presenting that data to the users. This results in poor discoverability features. As long as your instance is federated with a community, you can compare them

Falcon replied to Silve

@Silv @gracjan @fishcharlie @nf3xn

> This is a quirk of ActivityPub, not specifically Mastodon. There are currently projects in the works to remedy this, and I think a few fediverse software already fix this behavior using server side workarounds.

Is this issue currently solved in Lemmy?

Silve replied to Falcon

@falcon @gracjan @fishcharlie @nf3xn

I think Lemmy solved this, but there are not enough federated activity to make this apparent to me.

The documentation has significantly improved since I last attempted to run a Lemmy Instance. You may find some of your curiosities answered here: join-lemmy.org/docs/en/introdu

I'll update this thread after I do some testing and find a conclusive result.

Silve replied to Silve

@falcon @gracjan @fishcharlie @nf3xn

Update:

It appears that Lemmy solved this issue. On Mastodon the user is considered the first-class actor, but on Lemmy the community is the first-class actor. Communities send a public announce whenever they are interacted with. This allows remote instances that are federated with the community to have full visibility of all posts, comments, and interactions from remote users.

join-lemmy.org/docs/en/federat

Silve replied to Silve

@falcon @gracjan @fishcharlie @nf3xn

Technical goodness:

Oho, I found this well of knowledge. it's a great read if you want to get into the nitty gritty weeds of how Lemmy federation works. The devs did a great job with the architecture of Lemmy, even if the user experience can be a bit strange at times.

join-lemmy.org/docs/en/federat

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