@dansup I couldnt join an Instance that needed a mobile phone to register I dont have a mobile phone ,theres no signal in the house or garden I have to walk to a mound on the road to get a signalHuge swathes of the area have no signal .Same for many other houses in rural areas of the UK ,only 1 out of 4 of my previous homes in the north of Scotland had a signal ,neither of my homes in Yorkshire did,its less uncommon than people think