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Joe

@Tutanota Meanwhile WhatsApp with its end to end encryption is hugely popular in India, so much so that they can't ban it.

14 May 2023 at 16:20 | Wall-to-wall | Open on sfba.social
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Ibrahim Nowshad

@not2b @Tutanota WhatsApp e2e encrypted? So why do the messages sync across various devices?

14 May 2023 at 16:58 | Open on mastodon.social
Lenz Grimmer

@ibnunowshad @not2b @Tutanota It's definitely possible to perform E2E encryption between more than just two endpoints.

16 May 2023 at 14:07 | Open on mastodon.social
dieTasse

@not2b @Tutanota Well, it maybe because facebook has your keys and can give access to any government should they ask I suppose...

14 May 2023 at 19:52 | Open on troet.cafe
Joe

@dieTasse @Tutanota No, that isn't how end to end encryption works. At least for one to one messages they have no ability to decrypt the message. But if you don't trust them because Facebook bought them you can use Signal.

14 May 2023 at 19:55 | Open on sfba.social
dieTasse

@not2b @Tutanota Haha, end to end does mean what it says, you encrypt, receiver decrypt. But if someone has your keys, they can decrypt as well. And yes facebook has those keys on their servers and they likely have access to those keys. I remember how people were surprised that facebook ads showed stuff they mentioned only on whatsapp. I do use Signal. I wouldn't trust Facebook, or any of big tech company for that matter.

14 May 2023 at 19:58 | Open on troet.cafe
Joe

@dieTasse @Tutanota That isn't how end to end encryption works. A key is generated on each device. It is public key encryption. The private key never leaves your device. Signal and WhatsApp use the same technology.

14 May 2023 at 20:58 | Open on sfba.social
dieTasse

@not2b @Tutanota feel free to blindly trust Zug, its your call. Until you show me the WA code I will assume they have access to any account (again how do you think the advertisements can get targeted with things said on WA?)

17 May 2023 at 19:50 | Open on troet.cafe
Joe

@dieTasse @Tutanota Oh, I don't trust him. They collect metadata, for instance (who is talking to whom). When a message is flagged as abusive it is sent to moderators (similarly if you send someone a Signal message they can forward it to the cops). But no, I don't believe you get ads because of things you said on WA.

17 May 2023 at 23:24 | Open on sfba.social
dieTasse

@not2b @Tutanota you don't trust him yet at the same time you say you trust the conversations are not misused. Anyway trust/believe is all you have my friend.

18 May 2023 at 8:25 | Open on troet.cafe
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