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Ika Makimaki

@dean @libroraptor I also know little about it, but I remember them being part of the #DavosSafe protocols.

I've read they're helpful although probably need a more strategic placement.

I wonder about the effectiveness of this one lamp just standing in the corner of the room, but I guess it can't be worse than not having it.

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Gasper Zejn

@pezmico @dean @libroraptor

UV-C light is pretty high energy light, which breaks down molecules and thus kills off germs.

But breaking down molecules also means it creates free radicals - highly reactive short-lifetime chemical compounds, that seek to react with other things they come into contact with.

Gasper Zejn

@pezmico @dean @libroraptor

This might mean combining with one another in the air and creating entirely new chemicals that have very little with their original source chemicals.

This might also mean damaging your tissue if you come into contact with them, most likely by inhaling.

Gasper Zejn

@pezmico @dean @libroraptor

That smell of freshly baked bread and sweets has a lot of chemicals in it, disassembling those chemicals and re-assembling them in a random way is quite a chemical experiment.

Gasper Zejn

@pezmico @dean @libroraptor

On the other hand, fine enough filters (think HEPA) can remove viruses, and a carbon filter after particle filter can also serve as reactant to safely react with reactive chemicals in air and remove free radicals and VOC.

Kris

@pezmico @dean @libroraptor

youtu.be/QSnUce9xdNo

Naomi Wu is a Cantonese Maker who has covered this extensively in a series of very thorough videos. How it works, how it is safely done and how to install, how to do it cheaply.

You want a very specific kind of UV light source, 222 nm, twitter.com/realsexycyborg/sta, and install it in air ducts or filters to deactivate virus material,

Alistair K

@isotopp @pezmico @dean For the school contexts that I'm thinking about, home-made won't do – it'd have to be a commercially supplied one from the HVAC company. These things have been around for years; what I'm wondering is whether there is an important reason why they're not being promoted while filtration is.

Mike M.

@libroraptor @isotopp @pezmico @dean
I get the impression that inside the HVAC ducts, UV is expensive and not super effective, bc air circulates through quicker than viruses get destroyed. You can add more UV lighting inside the ducts, but that gets even more expensive (and adds maintenance and safety issues -- UV shining out of grates, etc.). So high-quality mechanical filtration tends to be more effective. (But UV may be good for reassuring ppl.)

Alistair K

@mmlvx @isotopp @pezmico @dean I didn't think to check Wikipedia before, but it turns out that they have a broad-and-thin, inconclusive, but at least reasonably current, summary en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultravio

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