Chris Trottier
This take is annoying. But it's also not entirely @gruber's fault because the media doesn't really talk about the Fediverse, and when they do, it's as a synonym for "Mastodon". How would @gruber know about the massive development efforts to build more user-friendly alternatives to Mastodon? No one in the media talks about the growth of *key apps, and how they're now the #2 most used Fediverse platform. That story isn't being told. 12 comments
Chris Trottier
If Mastodon users don't know about the Fediverse, they don't know why the messages they receive look wonky sometimes. "Why is this guy allowed to post with more than 500 characters?" they often wonder. "Why are there links in this post? Why can't I see things that other people can?" they'll ask. And then they realize, "Hey, that guy can quote post! I thought Mastodon didn't allow that! How is that possible?" Well, yeah, because those deviations require the context of the Fediverse. 
Randy (Bluesbreaker)
@atomicpoet Has anyone written up a comparison of the platforms that have various features (not video or audio, text only)?
Chris Trottier
@randulo I don't know if anyone has written something up, but here's a comparison graph.
Riku Mattila
@atomicpoet Even if you can, it doesn't necessarily mean you should. I think the 500-character limit is good.
si_irini
@atomicpoet @gruber @fediversenews 
Sbectol :twt:
@atomicpoet I've not used *key but presumably the negatives are similar there as here? The issues of moderation etc must be similar across the Fediverse.. or have they somehow dealt with the CW issues that POC pointed out were unfriendly to them?
Chris Trottier
@Sbectol Most *key users are Japanese. The culture is inherently different. But English-speaking *key culture is also different from Mastodon. It's more whimsical and fun. I haven't seen many CW issues. But then again, *key doesn't have quite the same reach as Mastodon.
Sbectol :twt:
@atomicpoet mm. So that's not so much a technical fix as a difference in culture.. Presumably a POC on a *key instance could still be shut down and silenced by lardarses on mastodon (or anywhere else)
j_bertolotti
@atomicpoet
Chris Trottier
@j_bertolotti The https://calckey.org site just came online. Here's an explanation: https://calckey.org/blog/en/calckey/ 
gr0k
@atomicpoet @fediversenews There's definitely something to what @gruber is saying. With manual account approval on mastodon.social and it being pushed as the default, I'd love to see the abandonment rate... Perhaps it's different when signing up through a phone? But getting someone all excited about trying a new social network is hard enough. Now they have to retain that excitement for an unknown amount of time, and then care enough to engage at some later date... Not much fun... |
Gregory's Server
Whenever I tell people that Mastodon isn't the Fediverse, the Mastodon stans start saying, "Oh, you sound like a guy who's complains that Linux isn't called GNU/Linux."
No, there's a massive difference.
To most people, whether you call something Linux or GNU/Linux doesn't affect the user experience of using the OS.
Referring to the Fediverse as "Mastodon" definitely affects the user experience of using Mastodon.