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Aurynn Shaw

“How will fedi survive now that whatever new techbro bullshit has come out”

It survives because of a bunch of admins want it to survive and will keep on wanting it to survive.

Hope that helps. 🙂

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Edge

@aurynn @vmstan And we thank you very much for that!

McNeely

@aurynn they keep saying that like it's a bad thing and I'm confused

Ames

@aurynn And because a bunch of us randos prefer it to whatever billionaire techbro bollocks is currently on offer.

ᕹᔓᓗᐠ :mate:
@runoutgroover @aurynn there's a lot of BIPOC discourse happening on tiktok that i miss here, but that's starting to change. moderation and content curation are still in their infancy, but the new perspectives coming online will hopefully make a meaningful impact there.
Hagfish fancier v3.04

@aurynn It survives because shockingly, there are enough people not attempting to exploit it and other people for money

Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@pagrus @aurynn There are also quite some people trying to exploit it or turn it into something else by buying servers or running shady services through ActivityPub. Fortunately its structure makes the Fedi resilient enough against these kind of stuff.

Also most admins are tech nerds, furries, trans or in other ways part of a minority group who ain't fall that easy for big tech shit.

JustAFrog

@aurynn I like how we're not dependent on VCs throwing gobs of money.

We just have people donating to keep the servers going, which apparently keeps happening all the time.

Frederik Vos

@aurynn Of course, it will not survive in this form. For instance, IRC and Jabber are almost dead by now. Two examples of open platforms of the past. But there will be something else, open-source and maintened by passioned admins.

Aurynn Shaw

@inktvis75 everything dies. It’s okay if it does.

Pēteris Krišjānis

@inktvis75 @aurynn tbh IRC has always been 'alive' as much as it can be. Jabber never fully took off for mainstream social interaction (XMMP protocol itself however has been more successful), and Matrix stepped in.
Overall protocols and communities are who drives current development. So ActivityPub is here to stay. How Fediverse evolves remains to be seen.

Frederik Vos

@peteriskrisjanis @aurynn yes IRC is still there, but id I compare it with the time that I was there every day, more then 20 years ago… It is almost dead. I still visit it from time to time.
Oh men, i am getting old…

Pēteris Krišjānis

@inktvis75 @aurynn tbh we at work use IRC as reliable RPC / distributed message system for our software projects.
But overall, things evolve. I feel though Fediverse and ActivityPub is in very good place technical growth wise. I think this will be some time before something better comes along.

MSavoritias

@inktvis75 @aurynn

Its funny how having hubdrends of servers for #irc with tens of thousands of users and #xmpp having hundrends of thousands of servers and being used by fortnite is almost dead 🤔

Then is barely alive after a half a billion users?
I wonder what #gemini is also or #gopher. It feels pretty alive to me 🤷

Frederik Vos

@msavoritias @aurynn netsplit.de/networks/top10.php
it's nowhere comparing to the numbers twenty years ago, and there were less internet users in that time. For xmpp: i am totally unaware of everything happening in the gaming world, so I missed that.

Pēteris Krišjānis

@aurynn this question always comes between corpo and free, because people do not compute how someone might provide service for minimum price or truly free.
I always wanted to dig more into fediverse, and Twitter crisis gave me push I needed. However I plan to stick with it. It is not perfect, but it is fun, interesting, it has really solid feature set.
And what is most importantly it seem to attract that kind of crowd I vibe best with.
If I do social networking, let it be #Fediverse

tom4okstate

@aurynn if anything the growth of attractive federated options like Calkey are only going to be further boosted by other stuff coming online. For a long time it was Twitter or Mastodon. Now people are opening up themselves to the possibility of trying something new again and that helps stuff like calkey and miskey.

Philip Mallegol-Hansen

@aurynn @evan I agree, but I think the two opinions talk past each other to a degree:

“Survive” likely means something else to people posing that question, than I suspect it does to you.

By the definition of the first group, we might not survive.

And by the definition of the second group, that same outcome might not only meet the definition of survive, but perhaps even be “Thrive”.

SocialistStan

@aurynn fedi has been surviving techbro bullshit for years, why ask the question now?

Aurynn Shaw

@SocialistStan The combination of more mainstream awareness and everyone whinging about Bluesky

fuopy

@aurynn I don’t really care about merging with the twitter users at this point—people who use mastodon know what they want, people who still use twitter know what they want, and I feel either won’t change too much. I’ve learned my lesson at this point. Stay clear of profit-driven social networks.

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