@Gargron It's 13 and that's higher than 12.

There isn't any. It's still an obscenely expensive slab of glass and aluminum that's remotely controlled by Apple even after you've paid for it. Modern phones, all of them, are such a disappointment. I want to be excited about technology again.

@Gargron exactly, the iPhone 13 have no interesting things compared with the 12

@Gargron Camera and much better battery life

@Gargron it's newer

@Gargron its "even better"

@Gargron In General... all the new products don't actually accomplish anything new or better... remember FRY in Futurama? "Shut Up and Take My Money!" - I have an iPhone6 and it works great... does everything I want... Especially good for calling an UBER when I'm away from Home...

@Gargron It's one better! Also magical and revolutionary. Unless you hold it wrong.

@Gargron I guess the notch is a bit smaller now; but some Android phones are already on 2nd gen under-display cameras...

@Gargron its got a smaller notch 😃

@Gargron EXACTLY what I was thinking. I want a new phone, but can’t see why the 13 is better than the 12, really.

@Gargron New wallpapers? :hotboi:

@Gargron ARMv9-based SoC. Not necessarily for the performance but a few security features (MTE/BTI) that will be standards in the years to come.

@Gargron Yeah, this is honestly one of the most disappointing iterations of the iPhone ever. All you're getting over the 12 is a faster SoC, more base storage (thankfully!), and maybe a new camera unit. Honestly, this is one of Apple's more disappointing product launches. Out of all the new product launches, the most compelling one was the new iPad Mini, and that's because it actually made MEANINGFUL changes over the last iPad Mini!

@Gargron iPhone 13 vs iPhone 12/11? Not much, really.

iPhone 13 Pro vs everything before it? Worth every penny.

I say this, though, as someone who deeply values photography on an art level.

@Gargron The prices might be less than an equivalent Samsung?

@Gargron Slightly smaller notch, a singular camera moved. That's it

@Gargron #AppleEvent I guess if you have an old iPhone it may make sense but to update from a 12 is kinda stupid. So now Apple thinks you are guilty until proven innocent of being a pedophile and will break the security of the phone even more by scanning everyone’s pictures on their phone that they think they own. Disgusting and I can’t believe there’s that many sick people in the world to justify anything of the sort.