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Do you work at Microsoft* but also miss a powerful terminal emulator? New in KDE Gear ⚙️ 23.04: Konsole now works on Windows too!

More at:

kde.org/announcements/gear/23.

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* We couldn't think of another reason of why you would still be using Windows over Plasma 🤷

#terminal #windows #commandLine

23 comments
Ariane :btfly: Noxie

@kde for the windows stuff, there are many reasons why linux isn't catching up. Firstly ease of use. If we take a simple user story of a gamer : Let's get a computer, and play games.

buy a prebuilt at a random store.

let's skip the unfair installation/coming with windows part.

On windows : open edge -> seampowered.com -> download -> install -> install game -> play

on linux (let's assume debian based) : firefox -> steampowered.com -> download -> intall -> install game -> don't see all the game library -> understanding why that happens -> find the setting and enable it -> install game -> game won't launch -> find out why -> game requires proton GE -> firgure out what it is -> download -> unzip in compatibilitytools.d -> restart steam and change the proton version -> launch -> doesn't launch -> oh that game doesn't work anymore because of anticheat -> can't play that game.

I took a bad example, and it many cases it would be very easy. But in any case the fact Linux is not just a simple monolithic thing (different package managers, different DEs, different schedulers, different many things) makes any googling non trivial.

And that example shows one of MANY edge cases which a regular user will encounter on many occasion. Windows has the advantage of being uniform.

@kde for the windows stuff, there are many reasons why linux isn't catching up. Firstly ease of use. If we take a simple user story of a gamer : Let's get a computer, and play games.

buy a prebuilt at a random store.

let's skip the unfair installation/coming with windows part.

On windows : open edge -> seampowered.com -> download -> install -> install game -> play

Orca🌻 | 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

@Ariane@m.noxie.ch @kde@floss.social
Linux: It works.
Mac: It hurts.
Windows: At least it got games.

Abandoned

@Ariane

🤔 So, the funny joke needed a straw man immolation response?

There are real structural, social and economic issues which need serious discussion and change within Free Software. But the thing you gave a free pass on, buying random computers and installing Linux, is an actual thing we have to stop doing. Hackentux machines are not normal, unless you know what you're doing.

Buy a steam deck. A gaming computer made with Linux. Then the gaming straw man disappears too.

Dawid Rejowski

@Ariane @kde

Same conversation over and over... Under posts even mentioning Linux.

ForeverAndaDay

@Ariane @kde SteamOS and the Deck Verified program significantly reduce this issue imao. Obviously it will never be perfect, but it's good enough that millions of steam decks are out in the wild, many used by primarily console players.

Ariane :btfly: Noxie

@foreverandaday
Yup it is, and I hope it continues the trend, but compared to Macs and PCs that is still a ridiculously low number :blobCat_pleading:
Also we could derive a corollary from what you said that Steamos seems to also show that without a company wanting to make money off of it, a distro is inherently non user friendly.
I cannot really fault that thinking as UX is often at best an afterthought in open source projects. KDE seems to take this more seriously since some years and this is laudable but there's still so so so much work, and distro themselves have big UX issues.
Let's hope we can see more UX specialists at Foss confs, raising awareness throughout the community. @kde

@foreverandaday
Yup it is, and I hope it continues the trend, but compared to Macs and PCs that is still a ridiculously low number :blobCat_pleading:
Also we could derive a corollary from what you said that Steamos seems to also show that without a company wanting to make money off of it, a distro is inherently non user friendly.
I cannot really fault that thinking as UX is often at best an afterthought in open source projects. KDE seems to take this more seriously since some years and this is laudable...

Wohao_Gaster :fatyoshi:

@kde "We couldn't think of another reason of why you would still be using Windows over Plasma 🤷" I'm currently using KDE plasma on Fedora and Kubuntu on my laptop but my other PC is BIOS locked and since it has the better CPU it's what I'm daily driving

Wohao_Gaster :fatyoshi:

@didek @kde BIOS locked. I bought my pc used for €50 and there's a bios password

Dawid Rejowski

@WohaoGast @kde

Ah, I see.
Have you tried removing BIOS battery or resetting jumpers?

Wohao_Gaster :fatyoshi:

@didek @kde No because I don't know what I'm doing. I open up the device to look for a battery only to find that I am an idiot and don't know what I'm looking for and end up accidentally removing everything except the correct battery.

Thomas

@kde KDE for mac would be nice :D

Or at least Kate.

Dave :steamdeck:

@kde Awesome! I just installed on my work PC :)

skatty

@kde but windows terminal is very nice :mastojoy: :mastojoy:

phi1997

@kde
Hey now, working at Microsoft isn't the only reason to use Windows!
You could also work somewhere else that exclusively uses Windows. I know, sounds strange.

mittorn

@kde Full kde5/6 for windows when? kde4 port exists, why 5/6 not?

DELETED

@kde Is it windows or customized KDE Plasma? (It was joke)

Matias

@kde Nice! 😁
I pray for the recovery of the poor souls who had to boot into that OS to test it during development 🙏 True martyrs! :D

Felix Urbasik

@kde I make games that must run perfect on #Windows. That's why.

J. Mat B. Wilcoxson 👋

@kde Console on Windows sounds great.

PS, I enjoyed your Windows joke. (So many people didn't seem to get it... but I guess being forced to use Windows anywhere is no joke...)

Mitsunee | 光音

@kde currently beating myself up over not being able to apply to a job where I'd be stuck with microsoft stuff. Would love Konsole there tho, at least something familiar...

Wohao_Gaster :fatyoshi:

@kde having way too many desktops installed on one distro and using Konsole on budgie totally doesn't feel wrong at all

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