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Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@Fracture extremetech.com/computing/new-

"...ensuring that future models will integrate the company's Aitrios edge computing AI on the chipset level."

18 Apr 2023 at 21:10 | Open on chaos.social
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Fracture

@Natanox nooooo this is awful! I didn’t doubt you, but this is so much worse than the other articles I found were saying. Thanks, I’d already been considering trying a board from Libre Computing for my next project, this might be the push I needed.

18 Apr 2023 at 21:34 | Open on hachyderm.io
Josh

@Natanox @Fracture to be frank: this seems like nonsense and taking extremetech as a source seems very silly

as far as I know, Sony don't, and have never, made any kind of "AI engine" IP block that could be built on silicon, and their claim that this is "integrated at the chipset level" seems to be completely pulled out of thin air. The press release makes no mention of this, and Sony sell no such thing

I'm no fan of this, but it just looks like, at worst, building in some libraries for Sony's IoT device cloud management stuff in Rasbian. Unless you have a better source, I'd say maybe try not to spread silly fear-mongering like that

@Natanox @Fracture to be frank: this seems like nonsense and taking extremetech as a source seems very silly

as far as I know, Sony don't, and have never, made any kind of "AI engine" IP block that could be built on silicon, and their claim that this is "integrated at the chipset level" seems to be completely pulled out of thin air. The press release makes no mention of this, and Sony sell no such thing

18 Apr 2023 at 21:35 | Open on raru.re
Fracture

@6a62 @Natanox After re-reading that article and checking its sources, I didn’t see anything about including tracking in the Raspberry Pi either.

I went searching and found up the Japanese press release in case it had more information, and it sounds more like they’re going to be building sensors and other devices that are designed to integrate with a Pi, and in turn Raspberry Pi is listed as a verified device or something.

sony-semicon.com/ja/news/2023/

18 Apr 2023 at 22:10 | Open on hachyderm.io
Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@Fracture @6a62 There's another press release over here: sony.co.uk/presscentre/news/ra

It can't find text-based sources that specifically state it, however Sony says in their marketing video (in the extremetech article) that their technology is based on some kind of AI chip they produce which only works in tandem with "the cloud".

Also raspis ain't capable of proper AI calculations - those SoCs are way too weak without specialized hardware.

@Fracture @6a62 There's another press release over here: sony.co.uk/presscentre/news/ra

It can't find text-based sources that specifically state it, however Sony says in their marketing video (in the extremetech article) that their technology is based on some kind of AI chip they produce which only works in tandem with "the cloud".

18 Apr 2023 at 23:44 | Open on chaos.social
Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@Fracture @6a62 This means the chip will, most likely, work for image recognition to piece together metadata which then in turn can be processed either locally or, and that's the way worse variant, via the Sony cloud.

18 Apr 2023 at 23:44 | Open on chaos.social
Josh

@Natanox @Fracture that sounds about right to me, but none of that requires or suggests proprietary Sony hardware in future Pi products

it also doesn’t suggest that Pi’s are going to start send metadata to Sony without your permission either, unless you fancy building some IoT garbage on their cloud platform

19 Apr 2023 at 0:02 | Open on raru.re
Stewart Russell

@Natanox where does it say "via the Sony cloud"?

19 Apr 2023 at 1:33 | Open on xoxo.zone
Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@scruss In the marketing video.

19 Apr 2023 at 1:39 | Open on chaos.social
Stewart Russell

@Natanox I've read that twice, and I don't see anything outrage-worthy. eli5, pls?

(Was it the "Only metadata is exported to the internet" bit?)

19 Apr 2023 at 1:32 | Open on xoxo.zone
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