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Chris Trottier

This is the local feed of Cloudflare's official Wildebeest server.

It's supposed to be their flagship, a demonstration of everything good about Wildebeest.

And all I see is one lonely bot, @radar, that periodically posts about "Internet trends".

Nobody interacts with this bot. There are no likes, comments or boosts on any of its posts.

Quite frankly, this is pathetic.

cloudflare.social/public/local

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Chris Trottier

Here's the local feed from another Wildebeest server:

social.jasnell.me/public/local

It features one message from 1 month ago, which says, "Tap tap tap. Is this thing on?"

🤣

I really don't think Cloudflare will be a threat to the Fediverse. At least, not any time soon.

Darnell Clayton :verified:

@atomicpoet This is interesting, but I wonder if it's because #Cloudflare did not take time to understand the #Fediverse culture.

Both #Medium & #Flipboard’s instance communities are far more active, but the leaders of each took the time to know the Fediverse culture (well, rather #Mastodon culture).

Chris Trottier

@darnell I think that's a pretty good assumption. I've read an interview about Wildebeest with Cloudflare's CTO, and he seemed incredibly clueless about Fediverse culture.

Chris Trottier

It's funny, when Wildebeest was announced, there were a whole lot of tech bros who seemed really excited about it -- and pushed back against the notion that Wildebeest wasn't a good project.

They claimed Wildebeest's vertical integration with Cloudflare would be a game changer.

Well, where are those tech bros? And why aren't they using Wildebeest?

Were they just being contrarians for the sake of being contrarian?

MikeK

@atomicpoet

I think that launching without full portability suppressed enthusiasm. I would have started a single user instance, but I need an escape hatch.
But fair's fair. I seem to remember you were fairly positive? Or am I mis-remembering?

Chris Trottier

@mkarliner At first, I had a "let's reserve judgment and see what happens" perspective. But within a day, I realized that they weren't going to be good Fediverse citizens.

System IV, Building K

@atomicpoet @freakinbox Just the name Wildebeest kind of gives away the whole FUD nature of the thing.

Chris Trottier

Wildebeest is an interesting case study on what NOT to do when rolling out Fediverse server software. Namely:

1. DON'T offer no account portability
2. DON'T show up with blatant security bugs, and disregard people who report those bugs -- and claim they are spammers
3. DON'T be ignorant about Fediverse culture
4. DON'T be a company with a history of empowering troll instances that exist to antagonize marginalized communities

In other words, don't be Cloudflare.

Wildebeest is an interesting case study on what NOT to do when rolling out Fediverse server software. Namely:

1. DON'T offer no account portability
2. DON'T show up with blatant security bugs, and disregard people who report those bugs -- and claim they are spammers
3. DON'T be ignorant about Fediverse culture
4. DON'T be a company with a history of empowering troll instances that exist to antagonize marginalized communities

MikeK

@atomicpoet

I think that's sad.
Come on guys, let's follow it...

Nathan Thomas

@atomicpoet I am still running my Wildebeest instance. It's definitely beta and there are problems with interoperability between Wildebeest and Mastodon, such as Hashtags.

Chris Trottier

@nthomasgsy Do you actively use it? Has anyone, besides yourself, registered on your server?

Nathan Thomas

@atomicpoet it was just for me, no other users. I'm still happy running it for now to see where it goes - nptcomputing.xyz

Chris Trottier

@nthomasgsy And it's not just me, your server actually is down.

Nathan Thomas

@atomicpoet seems to be working now. Latency was pretty bad for a minute there. Perhaps services had to start up after not being used for a while. wildebeest.fediverse.observer/

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