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Chris Trottier

A few days ago, I shared some art. People asked me to put it behind a content warning.

This bothered me because there was nothing untoward about that art. No nudity, violence, or anything untoward.

Nonetheless, people found it to be “disturbing”.

I deleted it because I had to ask myself, “What am I trying to accomplish? Do I want to talk about social media or art?”

Yet I do want to talk about art. It’s an important part of my life. Also, separating art from technology is a big mistake.

42 comments
Odd-Egil Auran

@atomicpoet Did anyone express what exactly they thought was disturbing? (I know there are some phobias that get triggered by certain images).

wendinaokland

@atomicpoet well, what about pixelfed? I only just signed up & haven’t made any sense of it yet, but would that work?

13 barn owls in a trench coat

@atomicpoet do you think it might be a consequence of your high follower numbers increasing the odds of a post being seen by someone who might be disturbed by it?

Nina Kalinina

@atomicpoet sometimes it's impossible to predict what's going to trigger a traumatic response. And often it's not possible to put content warnings on everything, especially if you're struggling to tell what is disturbing about the art. Still, if people would ask me to put a warning, I'd try to accommodate the request.
Also, I'm curious what was the art about.

Chris Trottier

All art is disturbing. Even art that’s designed not to be disturbing is disturbing.

You might not find this Thomas Kinkade painting to be disturbing, but I do.

I’m not joking here. Not only does this painting offend me, it oppresses me.

And yet, it was designed for mass appeal.

Ted Garrison

@atomicpoet Nice painting, but a little overdone in my opinion. Not something I'd hang on my wall.

Casey Jennings

@atomicpoet You just know something deeply wrong is going on inside that cottage

Ubermarionette

@atomicpoet I like that kinkade was a Tortured Artist with a life only a few steps up from van Gogh's but his art was just shit

Chris Trottier

Over the past 10 years, the tech world has been dominated by a specific aesthetic called Corporate Memphis.

See image as an example.

It’s a result of a marketing committees saying, “What’s the most inclusive art we can make that doesn’t offend anyone?”

It’s fine to be inclusive unless that inclusion hides exploitation. Which is what most of the tech world is about.

They want to present fancifulness while hiding their true motivations.

Océane 🏳️‍⚧️

@atomicpoet I've read somewhere that the point with these joyful dancing humans was to hide the harm they're doing to people and to the planet. For example we're talking a lot about greenwashing, privacy washing, rainbow capitalism, etc. and at some point we can start to wonder how many concepts we're going to have to learn. It's much more simple.

Chris Trottier

The problem with modern art is that we’ve allowed homogeneity to take over.

Despite having the entire world’s knowledge at our fingertips, we’ve resigned ourselves to a flat and drab monotony.

We disguise this behind “best practices”. But in reality, we’ve put our creative impulses inside a cage.

Frankly, I’m bored.

Chris Trottier

Years ago, I embarked on a quest to create a whole new aesthetic that I called “Sizz”.

People found it disturbing. Even now.

But slowly a community formed around it.

I don’t regret offending people with high contrast black and white.

At least, this art is imbued with a piece of me.

Dave

@atomicpoet I like it. It's a slice of life. High-contrast photography is usually harsh. It evokes a reaction. It's hard to ignore. It's even harder to say, "That's nice, don't forget the milk on the way home."

Jeff C. 🇺🇦

@atomicpoet I LOVE high-contrast black and white.

Definitely more interesting than the pablum that goes for corporate messaging illustration these days.

Lee 🌏

@atomicpoet
I spent my 3 years at Uni, trying to create a whole new design style and ended up with a shit grade, compared to those who followed the current style. ☹️
I look back at the work, and it was a bit patchy. Some good bits and some bad bits, and maybe I got the grade I deserved, but what I can say is, the system is set up to reward those who conform.

Debideaux

@atomicpoet I don't find it disturbing. I keep trying to squint 😆 enough to see what the light is hiding.

JustAFrog

@atomicpoet The high contrast reminds me of WW2-era recon photography.

Except those were mostly aerial shots and a few side profiles of military and industrial things.

The way some details disappear and emphasis shifts from the expected to other objects makes your images interesting to look at.

Like, I know what I'm looking at, but I never looked at it like that.

Dave

@atomicpoet Homogenized is less likely to offend. Take a risk. No matter what anyone does some will object, some will worship the ground they walk on, most will take it in stride.

DELETED

@atomicpoet while I encourage people to talk and engage in the conversation of art, all I hear about "corporate art for the internet" is I think unwarranted. I can see why people get their assumptions, but it also shows that art education also has some utillity to the average person. 😅

Dave

@atomicpoet ...and once people pick up on that gimmick they become jaded, possibly cynical.

I'm in the miniority, but 'most anything created by committee is less than it could.

Lee 🌏

@atomicpoet
I have a client who loves this stuff! 😳
To them, it's a change from boring old stock photography. To them, it's new and exciting and different. As it becomes more popular, there is more and more of it on Stock Libraries, giving them more choice. I've no doubt it will be a passing style, but in my experience, we haven't even got close to Peak Corporate Memphis yet.

David Erik Nelson🪬

@atomicpoet dude, same. For me, it’s the weird greasy light and the void of internal logic (like in this painting: why are there so many chimneys in such a small cottage, and located as they are? What is the source and nature of the bizarre light limning the door?)

Dr. Samuel Wein

@atomicpoet
"Every window was lit, to lurid effect, as if the interior of the structure might be on fire."

backofthecerealbox.com/2005/12

Sami Seppo ( EN / FI )

@atomicpoet I understand why such painting doesn't whisper/speak to you, but mostly disturbs. A shallow work like this takes skills (obviously) to get implemented, but it just mostly screams obvious - oustandingly. Would work e.g. to illustrate entertainingly visually a scenery in a fairy tale story for kids.

A piece of #art should:
1) say something other than just obvious
2) show some skill (effort isn't that necessary, but at least a sheer sense of style is)

@atomicpoet I understand why such painting doesn't whisper/speak to you, but mostly disturbs. A shallow work like this takes skills (obviously) to get implemented, but it just mostly screams obvious - oustandingly. Would work e.g. to illustrate entertainingly visually a scenery in a fairy tale story for kids.

Rufus J. Cooter

@atomicpoet
Hard agree lol
usedta be a thomas kinkade store in the 'fancy' mall downtown, that you had to walk by after leaving the multiplex; that place always gave me the heebie-jeebies

Raccoon ✅

@atomicpoet
Nah brah, shit looks like some Fae Horror, like, that's where the fae-folk hunter who eats eyeballs lives. Run while you can!

Ted Garrison

@atomicpoet some folks also need to figure out that the world doesn't come with a big CW over everything..

If it didn't contain explicit violence, nudity, etc. of a level that the common person would find disturbing, then too bad.

DELETED

@atomicpoet this is why I keep everything hidden 🤣

Andres Jalinton

@atomicpoet
CW are a big dividing topic.
I'm all for "whatever you want as long it is not nsfw"
Courtesy calls for CW when it's visual contact or seizure warning and I follow those, but I understand people not being so attentive.

Dave

@atomicpoet Everyone is multi-dimensional with varied likes/dislikes, interests, etc. To pigeonhole anyone is a mistake and limits what can be obsorbed/learned from others. When we broaden our horizons - even a little bit we are the better for it.

si_irini

@atomicpoet
Now I want to know what that was that was so disturbing....

Art should draw certain reactions with itself.
Awaken feelings.

But I don't find the painting by Thomas Kinkade disturbing...what do you find disturbing?
It seems like something out of a fairy tale...

Ren Scot :verified_flashing:

@atomicpoet I consider myself one of the most inclusive & least prejudiced people out there but I don’t believe in sheltering people either. Something about everyone triggers someone. If the biggest thing we’re worried about on this platform is offending others, most of us wouldn’t be able to say anything at all. I agree with you.

Die Mad

@atomicpoet
If it doesn’t make you think, it’s not art - it’s $9.95 at Walmart. Some folks find thinking to be disturbing. OK, but they can scroll faster in that case; do not let them censor.

Olav

@atomicpoet

There are two levels:
1. Is it something a kid might see in a museum
2. Is someone's job going to freak out over the statue of David

1. There are a lot of dicks and tits on art. Some of them supposedly biblical. Art's like that
2. If you're logging into any SM account on your work PC you're an idiot.

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