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 @Xantulon But it is easy. And more to the point, Meta already has the network effect advantage. Blocking them doesn’t get rid of their network effect advantage. Now the people using Meta must leave Meta’s services. So how to accomplish that? The most important thing is to be VISIBLE to people who use Meta, and offer them a migration path. 12 comments
@Xantulon Now you catch what I’m saying 🙂 It is critical to build migration tools. And key to migration is making Meta users aware of what exists outside Meta—and building a compelling case for why they should leave. But first we must understand what P92 is, how it works, and how it will interact with the rest of the Fediverse. @atomicpoet P92 is the scorpion. We know what it is, or should, we may not know whether the threat is the claws or the tail or something else, but IMO it doesn't matter. @Xantulon Okay, what is P92? All I know is that it’s a text-based Twitter competitor that aims for Mastodon compatibility and ActivityPub integration. That’s it. Will it talk to Pixelfed? What about Friendica? Will it be open source? Will it add additional features out of the gate? I don’t know. @atomicpoet I understand the curiosity. Possibly if P92 wasn't being developed by a monopolistic entity fighting for its life, it might be interesting to play with, but it's venom in the scorpion tail. If it wasn't in a scorpion... https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2013/12/venom-of-deadly-scorpions-has-medical-use/ @Xantulon No, I don't want to play with it. I want to first understand it, then fight it 🙂 @atomicpoet well, we didn't really understand some plagues, but we figured out if we didn't drink polluted water not as many people got sick, or we got rid of fleas, or we slept under mosquito netting. Eventually we understood why those things help. But waiting to understand why those things work before doing them would have been much more deadly. Once understood, we can be more efficient with mitigations @Xantulon This isn't a plague that suddenly appears out of nowhere. This is something built by humans, and used by humans. You might think blocking Meta fixes the problem, but I assure you that it doesn't. People who join will just dismiss us as purists while Meta hijacks the Fediverse. And they won't understand our concerns since our concerns won't be VISIBLE to them. So, how to persuade people to leave Meta? @atomicpoet I think you miss my point. The fedi is open, it's not going to quarentine, well bits of it might, but we have mitigations. Blocking is one of them. The people I know on Facebook, for example, won't leave until there isn't a Facebook. It's part of how their world works. That's a small sample size, but of the people left on Facebook, it seems pretty prevalent. Even when their friends and family are on other platforms, they don't follow. Meta must stop functioning for these people @Xantulon Again, it's not Facebook that's joining that Fediverse. @atomicpoet no, but from my experience the people on Facebook are the most entrenched compared to other Meta brands @atomicpoet Please note, I'm not saying we shouldn't make it easy, appeal to their sense of humanity, etc. It's just that if they aren't there yet, there will have to be something compelling, really compelling, for them to even consider moving |
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@atomicpoet unless switching from Meta properties to fediverse servers becomes a LOT easier, like click this button easy, I don't think fediverse visibility is going to matter to most Meta users. That's how Facebook beat MySpace, you could migrate your MySpace profile to Facebook easily, and once there, you were stuck. This will only be important for people willing to start completely over again unless there's an "import downloaded profile" button (simplified for post character limit)