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Johannes Ernst

The open social web, hmm. We have a lot of moderation and #fediblock in the #fediverse already, however, and might get more if/when large internet co's with a different value system than what's prevalent in the fediverse today connect. Personally I don't believe that unqualified "open" is what we want.

I think we want "open for anybody who isn't out to screw us" or some (more polite) version of that ...

@mike

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@J12t
@mike that's how the "open web" has always worked; anybody can run an SMTP server and send email to anyone else. The responsibility for filtering the spam lies with the consumer.

#Fediverse #fediblock

Johannes Ernst

@schizanon @mike yep, except the fediverse these days is more explicit that some โ€œedgeโ€ decisions are made by the user themselves, some by instance operators/moderators, now with sharing block lists, arguably some decisions are made not at the edge any more.

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Mike Macgirvin
@Johannes Ernst @Mike McCue  Mass blocking is actually fairly new in the fediverse and arrived with Mastodon. When your only tool is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. Some of us use permissions instead. It's a much more civilised way of managing discord and rubbish. We also provide blocking, but when your permissions and personal filters work well you'll find you only rarely need to play whack-a-mole. When Islamic State joined the fediverse some years ago we made sure we could block them, but those tools went unused because most of us never saw them. We only ended up blocking them in the "public stream". Over time, most of our sites turned off the public stream because 1) it's just a cesspool and 2) no site owner wanted the liability.
@Johannes Ernst @Mike McCue Mass blocking is actually fairly new in the fediverse and arrived with Mastodon. When your only tool is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. Some of us use permissions instead. It's a much more civilised way of managing discord and rubbish. We also provide blocking, but when your permissions and personal filters work well you'll find you only rarely need to play whack-a-mole. When Islamic State joined the fediverse some years ago we made sure we could block...
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