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Well, Meta, WordPress, Tumblr, Mozilla, Medium. All the big money players are arriving with all their millions of users hauling images! Eeesh!
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 @Qazm @david @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @davetroy That would be grand, is the resources issue chiefly a none-issue, then? @Qazm @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @davetroy Are you talking about setting up Relays, or is that something else?  @Qazm @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @davetroy Thanks! Good to know. Lots to study here! Thank you for taking the time to explain all this. :) @david @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @davetroy @Qazm @david @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris@qoto.org @davetroy I guess I’m just preemptively assuming Facebook will be misbehaving.  @markearnest @Qazm @david @HistoPol @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy What is the old saying? "When they show you who they are, believe them..." @markearnest @Qazm @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy Without question. They've already taken over this conversation! @markearnest @Qazm @david @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy "...preemptively assuming Facebook will be misbehaving." I think the incentives to either feast on #Mastodon or take it down are just far to great for that not to happen. Probably even within a year. @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy "It's gonna be metal!" @david i wouldn't be surprised if there was a name change to Masto @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy @jaythvv @david @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy FediGram or FediBook Someone with excess funds should start copyrighting / trademarking different play on names to keep Meta's grubby hands away from them. @paul @jaythvv @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy Remember when Twitter took the "@Chase" username that a guy had for years and gave it to to the bank instead? We'll see a lot of that happening here.  @david @paul @jaythvv @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy I have a friend who's Dixie on the bird site. Dixie Cups offered her real money for the handle; she turned them down. She chose the handle because years ago she took a Facebook quiz that pronounced her "100% Dixie" (i.e., culturally very much of the southern U.S.). @panamared27401 @paul @jaythvv @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy That's such a cute story! Did she get to keep Dixie? Or did Twitter take it away from her? @david @paul @jaythvv @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy She still has it. If Dixie Cups has a bird account, I couldn't find it. @panamared27401 @paul @jaythvv @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell I'm glad to learn that! If Dixie Cups had a multimillion Ad buy however... @david @paul @jaythvv @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy She could counter by telling them to take Dixiecups or Dixie_Cups, both of which are taken but appear to never be used. @panamared27401 @paul @jaythvv @HistoPol @markearnest @Qazm @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy Taken, but never used -- used to be sacrosanct. It didn't matter, Twitter claimed, if the username was being used or not. It was taken in perpetuity. Then the Chase thing happened -- and Twitter suddenly said that usernames don't belong to users, they are, and have been, and always will be, the property of Twitter and they alone decide who gets to use them. @david I vaguely recall that. I sort of figured it was being handled the same way that, for example, I couldn't have just snatched up mcdonalds.com as a domain name back when domain names first became a thing. Domain names are a little different. They're much harder to take back. I'm glad your friend kept her name! That's good news for the day! @Qazm @HistoPol @markearnest @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy These are super fascinating problems that will have to be resolved -- but who, how and what will do the negotiating? Is there a Central Control to gatekeep these issues? @david @Qazm @markearnest @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy Apart from @Gargron, who works for a small non-profit company, I would not know who else. I might become necessary that the big instances of the #Fediverse elect some form of representative, maybe like the #EuropeanCommission, @HistoPol No, he’s got another guy now. He has a proper title, but I get the impression he’s the one that has to talk to the Venture. Although some of them may be a little cash strapped at the moment. <I will not snicker, I will not….>
@Gargron @Bluedepth @juneussell @davetroy @paul @markearnest @Qazm @darren @david @fediversereport @HistoPol @Qazm @markearnest @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy @Gargron Yes, it's Gargron's party, but does he want to be the figurehead leader and ultimate gatekeeper? I think he should be that and more, but my sense of it is that he doesn't want to be that person. @david @Qazm @markearnest @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy @Gargron The nice thing about being the general manager of a company is that you can appoint others to do your bidding. Also, isn't there something like a "Global Fediverse Association" or something? @Qazm @HistoPol @markearnest @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy @Gargron This is all new to me. It will be interesting to see if there is any negotiation involved, or if it's just take the software and make it what you will. Fork it if you have to, and welcome. @Qazm @HistoPol @markearnest @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy Thank you for that insight and analysis! @Qazm @markearnest @david @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @davetroy Very interesting points. |
@david @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @davetroy I don't think it would be necessary to defederate. Instances don't have to accept any random content pushed their way in the first place, just what the local users want to read. To my knowledge, current software only sends out media to servers where there are followers of that specific creator, in the first place.
If Facebook's software misbehaves or something like boost and favourite notifications become overwhelming then yes, partial filtering may be in order, but generally an instance's processing requirements scale mainly with its own members' activity and interests.
@david @HistoPol @paul @fediversereport @fediversenews @Bluedepth @darren @juneussell @volkris @davetroy I don't think it would be necessary to defederate. Instances don't have to accept any random content pushed their way in the first place, just what the local users want to read. To my knowledge, current software only sends out media to servers where there are followers of that specific creator, in the first place.