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Darius Kazemi

These days my go-to example of "you cannot bet on having access to better technology as time progresses" is "I used to have an app on my phone that could predict the next hour of weather with startling accuracy and that is no longer an option"

(I am talking about Dark Sky)

Edited to add: I only want to hear suggestions for services/sites/apps if they offer the same ~10min interval microforecasts for the upcoming hour that Dark Sky used to, because that is the thing I am lamenting

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Nelson Minar šŸ§šā€ā™‚ļø

@darius I'm sad about that too. Android completely shut out by monopolistic behavior. I gather the Apple app isn't as good as Dark Sky, either.

Darius Kazemi

@nelson that's the thing, I can't even solve the problem by buying an iPhone - apple weather is dogshit from what my friends tell me

pjbeardsley

@darius @nelson Hello Weather is a decent replacement. They have a similar API service as well. weathermachine.io/

Gracious Anthracite

@darius @nelson

It sure does not have anything like the super legible graphs Dark Sky had.

I moved to Weather Strip, which has a pretty legible one-glance graph of what I wanted out of Dark Sky. I think there's an Android version too.

Bob Gnarley

@darius Actually, Dark Sky wasn't very good at predicting the weather and it had a really weird method for trying to do so. It literally did everything via image analysis and completely ignored everything we know about weather science. slate.com/technology/2022/12/d

Darius Kazemi

@thebishopgame this article is about how it was inaccurate for forecasts beyond an hour - which matches my experience. What I also experienced was it was shockingly accurate for very short term forecasts. I could spend an extra 10 minutes at coffee shop to avoid being rained on thanks to Dark Sky

Bob Gnarley

@darius Heh, that was not my experience with it at all - every time I tried to make decisions based on it, I would get metaphorically and sometimes literally soaked. Cool that you got some good out of it, though.

Coral

@darius I use iOS and Iā€™m still annoyed wrt the apple acquisition

Itā€™s folded into the weather app now, and does get next-hour just as well, but the rain graph has completely gone :(

Darius Kazemi

@coral yes - I was going to explain further that even apple users don't have this functionality but it got a bit too wordy

Craig P

@darius We used to really liked predictive and historical weather, but now it's all garbage. Expensive garbage.

phillmv

@darius if i travelled back in time and explained to myself in 2011 the fragmented chat landscape i experience in 2023 i wouldnā€™t have believed it

SlightlyCyberpunk

@darius Wunderground is always spot-on for me...which is weird since I think they're owned by Weather Channel which is garbage...

Darius Kazemi

@admin does it forecast in five minute intervals for the next hour? That's the feature I miss

SlightlyCyberpunk

@darius ahh, no other than the radar view they only do hourly, but that's usually good enough to interpolate a fair bit IME. I know weather channel does 15 minute intervals but I feel like they make those predictions a few days out and never update them...

elle mundy

@darius iā€™ve been using @CARROT lately and itā€™s better than dark sky ever was meetcarrot.com/weather/

Darius Kazemi

@exchgr @CARROT I pay for carrot but I specifically posted this because I miss the microforecasts in ~10 minute intervals for the upcoming hour from dark sky

elle mundy

@darius @CARROT you mean the next-hour precipitation forecast? carrot has that, with a 1-minute interval if you tap on it

my carrot home screen, showing next-hour precipitation at the top
a more detailed view of next-hour precipitation with a minute-ly interval and a description underneath it
Darius Kazemi

@exchgr @CARROT this is what the Android app looks like. I can't find that information anywhere

Darius Kazemi

@exchgr just checked and the android app is full of 1* reviews saying how much it lacks features compared to iOS :/

elle mundy

@darius ah yeah, you might be out of luck there :(

Darius Kazemi

@exchgr right, looks like the Android app does not support the customization widgets and sources

elle mundy

@darius i know this isnā€™t super helpful, but iā€™m hearing more and more that androidā€™s app ecosystem lags behind iOSā€™s quite a lot these days in general

Darius Kazemi

@exchgr except on the web platform, hilariously

elle mundy

@darius and thatā€™s about to change due to regulatory pressure, which šŸ¤ž may force apple to allow alternate browser engines on iOS at long last

elle mundy

@darius @CARROT i have no experience with the android app, and it looks pretty different from iOS, but similar to macOS. the macOS app is not very customizable, but iirc i had to customize the iOS app to get it to show. iā€™m using accuweather as the source, and not all sources show it. you can manually add a ā€œminutely forecastā€ section, or the ā€œcurrent observationsā€ section will show it automatically when thereā€™s precipitation in the next hour

Damon Holzborn

@darius @exchgr I think whether you get that next-60-minute hyperlocal precipitation graph may depend on which source you have configured in the settings (at least I think thatā€™s how it worked for me on the iOS version ā€” hard to check now since itā€™s not raining at the moment).

Kathleen Fitzpatrick

@darius Argh, weather apps. :( We are on the front end of an ice storm right now, and for the last several days the NWS warnings have predicted ice accumulations of ā€œup to one half an inch," plus snow/sleet of ā€œup to one inch.ā€ At the same time, Weather Underground has been predicting 4-5 inches of snow. And Apple's Weatherkit has been (and still is) predicting 12-15 inches of wintry mix. ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

inhuman resource

@darius I'm remembering when back in 2011 google maps had realtime transit navigation that knew the stops and where you were on the line and notified you when you were getting close to your stop and they just dropped all that entirely for 6 or 7 years and it was worse than before for a while after it came back - It was fine last I checked but I haven't used it for a bit and I'd assume it's still there but I've been wrong about exactly that before so šŸ¤·

Darius Kazemi

@cr8 it's okay these days, thankfully, but yeah, it is nonlinear

NowWeAreAllTom

@darius Apple swears that all I need to do is switch to Apple Weather because the Dark Sky technology has been fully integrated into it now

I'm like... okay but I didn't use Dark Sky for the technology. I used it for the 10 minute forecast magic trick

Beth

@darius My household was so irritated when we knew it was going away. I used it to the very last second. Nothing compares so far.

RIP, Dark Sky. You kept us dry, warm, cool, and prepared.

railmeat

@darius
Dark Sky was the best, I miss it.

I donā€™t know why they could not maintain it or do something as good. This seems to be a recurring theme.

Darius Kazemi

@alrs yes, I have that pinned on my phone's home page. It is an hourly forecast though. I am lamenting the lack of a detailed forecast at 5 or 10 minute intervals for the next hour

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