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Chris Trottier

Next time a crypto bro tells me about their so-called "decentralized" social network, I'm going to ask them, "Is it governed by a DAO?"

If they tell me it is -- and most of them will be happy to tell you it is because they see it as a feature, not a bug -- I'll simply tell them, "Okay, so it's not decentralized."

That will be that, and I will continue building out real decentralization for social media.

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Howard Rheingold replied to Chris

@atomicpoet Interested in whether you can explain in toot-length how real decentralization for social media ought to work.

Chris Trottier replied to Howard

@hrheingold I've already explained it elsewhere in this thread.

LisPi replied to Chris

@atomicpoet @hrheingold How it /ought/ to work is also a difficult question because that's more asking for a judgement call than for anything technical.

It far more a question of what tradeoffs you prefer.

Sublime Abiding replied to Chris

@atomicpoet Yep. If the only way to help govern is by having a bunch of money (tokens) than it's just rich people controlling the network to further enrich themselves.

Travis F W replied to Chris

@atomicpoet y'know, there is value in having a literally codified "entity" take over from the humans when there are trust issues. And the DAO "entity" is decentralized. But at the level of individual sovereignty, and a new user's experience, you're right it's essentially the same ol'. I appreciate blockchain for being a back-end option, personally, but there is an impedence mismatch with the fediverse.

George Kalyvas replied to Chris

@atomicpoet Unless the DAO is supporting people to host the social media protocol/ servers themselves (which I’ve never seen lol), it really isn’t properly decentralized. Also, the Fediverse exists, so why not do something crypto+Activity Pub if you NEED crypto in your life? …🤷🏻‍♂️

jaschop replied to Chris

@atomicpoet
I've been thinking about this a lot from a FOSS-advocacy perspective. Crypto people *love* to talk Free Software language and take up all the air in discussions of digital sovereignity. We have built up our bullshit filters and can tell, but the general public often can't.

jaschop replied to jaschop

@atomicpoet
I've been thinking about punchy counter-arguments to crypto stuff, this is what I came up with so far:

#1 The people who added "mistrust authorities, promote decentralization" to the hacker ethic were talking about having the hardware they needed in their basements, not in shady server centers in Kazakhstan.

#2 Blockchain is just a new way of doing centralized databases. Just replace <fancy new chain> with "SAP" in your head, and see if it still sounds appealing.

@atomicpoet
I've been thinking about punchy counter-arguments to crypto stuff, this is what I came up with so far:

#1 The people who added "mistrust authorities, promote decentralization" to the hacker ethic were talking about having the hardware they needed in their basements, not in shady server centers in Kazakhstan.

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