@Connie thats exactly my point
making all the cables usb-c to usb-c increases demand for usb-c ports which in turn forces manufacturers to add them

@susul provide 2 usb-a ports in the end of the transition, just like how motherboard still has parallel and serial for YEARS after usb

@mo@mastodon.ml @nano@yiff.life TIL macbooks are bottoms

@mo @nano

This can actually just be fixed in software

@mo @nano
MacBook at 90%: "Fill me daddy uwu"
Phone at 10%: "What the fuck"

@mo @nano: Easy to fix. Just plug an USB-C->USB-A converter and an USB-A->USB-C-> converter at the end of your USB-C cable.

@mo @nano lets be real, the only reason people like USB-C is that the connectors aren't constantly falling apart like micro and they're not difficult to plug in like USB-A.

Nobody actually cares about the weird bullshit where either end can be host. they just want a connector that isn't terrible.

@mo

@nano

Why have hardware standards gone to crap as of late, and why is USB the worst offender?

@mo @nano This, along with the USB-C spec just being absolutely unholy hellish nightmare disaster in general, are why I will keep using old full size USB-A and USB-B ports on everything I can

Plus C is a pain in the ass to solder

@mo@mastodon.ml @nano@yiff.life I can plug my laptop into itself with usb-c to usb-c and it started charging itself

@mo @nano

TIL dominance ein robots is judged by serial number

@mo

@gnomon 👀

@mo @nano A phone and a laptop can just have software that lets the user pick which one gets charged, but I wanna know whether my Sony headphones or my Pixel Buds are more subby :blobfoxthinksmart:

@mo @nano this is extremely funny

@mo @nano oh my God, my phone is a bottom? This explains so much

@mo @nano my (Android) phone charges when plugged on my macbook. Can’t charge my macbook on another one tho 😔

@mo @nano and when you get two usb-c ports, you can plug your laptop into itself, which creates yet more problems (not only with charge, but with recursively discovering new devices connected too)

@mo @nano @Tauss_Srgl I don't like any of these sentences

@mo @nano Now imagine a buggy charger being subbier than the phone. You plug it in and the phone charges the power grid.

@mo @fasterthanlime @nano and what happen if you loop two ports of the same laptop?

Mo RJD² :sparkletrans:, the charging direction is controlled through software

@mo @nano

Tired: USB-PD source and sink

Wired: USB-PD sub and dom

@mo @nano I continue to maintain that the correct solution to this from a UX perspective is to sell unidirectional USB-C cables that only permit power to flow in the direction of the giant arrows that would be printed on it. Thus it's real easy for users. Just follow the arrows on the cable.

@mo @nano laptops usually have only one USB-C port that allows power coming in. So if you want to charge another device from your laptop... Plug it into one of the other ports.

@mo @nano I tried this with my Framework laptop and it stole charge from my phone, but on the second try it charged the phone

@mo @nano I feel immensely validated in my usb c hate

@mo @nano plugs in phone to laptop

soda sipping noise

@mo Why would one use his phone to charge anything at all? The only use case I can come up with is some sort of e-cigarette/vaporizer, but you'd better not use anything but the wall charger with those things unless you want to get the board fried 🤷

@mo @nano My phone is so subby compared to my laptop that it even says so when I try to override it

@mo @nano The solution is simple, Burn USB C to the ground and start fresh with something actually good.

But until then, use a USB C to USB A charge cable, with a USB C to USB A OTG cable. (I have actually done this, it worked)