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I've had the idea for a weird kind of Twitter client for years. With Mastodon being all open, I've decided to do the experiment: What if your Timeline looked like iMessage. A normal timeline confuses me to no end because everything is out of context. My experiment, Ebou, is a Mastodon client that looks like iMessage. Conversations are grouped by friends and sorted by recent postings. It is super basic right now, but this already feels much more natural to me 😀  @terhechte that's something i always wanted to have a social media program that separates posts like an RSS reader or a messenger app @rnd You can oft course already replicate thiss using #RSS, since e.g. #Mastodon accounts also pubush RSS feeds that you can subscribe to. I'm wondering though how boosts/reblogs would be handled, in particular if multiple people you "subscribe" boost he same post. On Mastodon RSS, boosts are simply not included, contrary to #Nitter RSS, where you can potentially see the same Retweet on several accounts. @terhechte @terhechte i remember tumblr had (has?) a feature that showed you "all your following, sorted by most recent post of theirs", and I loved it. This type of thing is 💯 @terhechte It’s great to see experiments like this! Being able to try all sorts of clients and UI choices without limits from restricted APIs or losing access to existing users and connections is a huge benefit of the fediverse. @terhechte That's a great idea! For folks who follow a limited number of people, it's a good way to interact. Feels more intimate.  @terhechte this is such a great look at how social media, without the financial incentives, could eventually escape the timeline entirely. @terhechte please please please make this a reality. I would pay for something like this! @terhechte that new excitement around the Mastodon clients experience is aweeeeesome. I am thrilled, it's like the early days of Twitter all over again. Yes this would be a fantastic extra view… but not a Home feed replacement. Definitely a good way to keep up with top posters who don’t post too often. Like a more advanced List view. @ProgGrrl @terhechte I think it's worth thinking about it from different perspectives! Everyone wants something different  @terhechte oh neat, this should be doable as a Pleroma/Akkoma frontend I bet.
@terhechte great stuff, I’ve often thought of being able to have a people-centric view 👍🏼 That is literally how I use twitter. I use a firefox add-on to put tabs on the left instead of the top, and then keep one tab open for each person I follow. But I use nitter because its a lot more light-weight than twitter's official web interface. Switching to the 'normal' interface here on mastodon has been kind of painful. Here's a screen shot.  So, you rearranged the screen using Firefox on a big monitor. Spice, I only use Android on a smartphone and a 10in tablet I TOTALLY agree that these new view ways are better. Like these see images  @terhechte very interesting! You might also want to look at frendica for a bit, it has some fedi integration but also presents quite differently offering a more forum post kind of format more cleanly threading replies and so on @terhechte I like where this is going. I have long wanted social media to help deepen relationships and I feel like this would help with that @terhechte You say iMessage, but I like it that it also looks like an RSS reader, except it’s not read-only. @terhechte I think the only thing that would get me to bother to switch to another client would be if it integrated an algorithm on my feed so that the people I interact with most show up first. Neat idea, though! @ShrikeTron @terhechte Lists can self-adjust to who you interact with most? I've been using the bell icon on some people so they show up in notifications as well, which isn't as spammy, though that's manual, and can only go so far. @nafnlaus @terhechte Unfortunately Lists are not dynamic, but going along with Mastodon DIY, just add/remove people most interacted with to a List. @terhechte This is such a great idea! Sometimes I simply want to know what someone else has been up to without getting sucked into the timeline. Proper read/unread indicators per Conversation would also keep me from reading the same toots more than once. Could be a nice client for people looking for a calmer and more focused Mastodon experience.  @terhechte if you also have the option to sort the users you’re most interested in to the top, could be useful for people who pop in occasionally to see what their favourites are saying @terhechte Are you just showing off what you have so far? I can't seem to find it online  @terhechte this is extremely cool and something I never would have thought of, but immediately makes sense to me! Great job. @terhechte Love this idea! THIS is the sort of innovation I’m excited about in the fediverse. @terhechte great stuff! I’ve wanted to try out a social media client that had this kind of view for a long time now… @terhechte Stallman save me, but this made me wonder if mastadon.el could be made into a gnus backend I think you have a good concept there.  @craigbro @terhechte I pondered that exact idea some time ago, but never really came to a clear idea about what would correspond to a group. Once you get past that, the mechanics are pretty simple, though the update process might be fairly slow. @carcosa @craigbro @terhechte Aah, I often dream of a refactored, performant and asynchronous #Gnus. I would just use that for everything. @craigbro @terhechte Probably yes, I heard that there's already a Elon Musk (Twitter) backend.  @craigbro @terhechte I'd prefer a general foo-to-NNTP gateway for #reddit #Mastodon and such services. This way, not only users of #GNUS would profit! @terhechte that approach feels more like a social media client where you focus on a person and not a >newsfeed< @terhechte Huh. Looks similar to Fedigardens which is currently in TestFlight beta. @terhechte Looks great! When I was with Yorba, we designed our email client Geary with a similar interface. I recall at one point someone in the room saying, "We should hook this up to the Twitter API," but never carried through with that. @terhechte Why not also borrow from iMessage that new posts appear at the bottom? It’s a much more sensible order for languages that read top to bottom to have later text appear below previous text.   @terhechte Love the idea! It looks super well done too. I'd definitely want to check it out!  @terhechte beautiful job! I would love to demo this layout as an option! Looking forward to your success! @terhechte It’s the old river of messages vs separated by sources division. We’ve been here before with #RSS feed readers. See this from @davew: http://scripting.com/2014/06/02/whatIsARiverOfNewsAggregator.html  @terhechte This is a bit similar to what I was describing as “stories but for Mastodon” here: https://mastodon.social/@simonbs/109708593290729324 At least in the way that it’s a chronological list of posts per author. I’d love something like Ebou! @terhechte ben brown is doing something a little similar, i think his is a web app tho. replied to him here https://finkasaur.us/@noah/109682685448579605 @terhechte interesting idea. For the majority of my time using Twitter, I followed specific accounts using Feedbin, eschewing “traditional” clients. This feels somewhere in-between. @terhechte I love this as a way to reduce the issue of one high-volume user on Mastodon drowning out another user that only posts occasionally, but has really good content. @terhechte queue the maniac mansion theme being in my head for weeks. thanks! love the concept of this view btw  @terhechte this is perfect when following a few heavy posters (on twitter I end up muting them and then occasionally checking their profile…) @terhechte I think this is exactly what I want. I feel the same way about Timeline being confusing and as it typically is displayed. @terhechte ⭕⭕⭕great⭕⭕⭕ way to see and use #mastodon Will there be an Android, 😁 version. Very much like... Telegram and BOOST SEE IMAGES @terhechte my first ever Twitter client was actually the instant messenger client Miranda IM (which I mostly used with MSN Messenger and ICQ), and its UI was basically one big weird chat window.  @terhechte @Gte Ooo, this is neat. Have you seen fraidyc.at? It’s a multi-feed thing, not a mastodon client, but it has the same one-entry-per-user idea. I’ve wanted something like it for Twitter (and the mastodon) for years, and this is a real nice example. Eager to see how it develops.  @terhechte What I’d like to know is… what is that post with #ManiacMansion in it?! @terhechte awesome! This to me feels like browsing Mastodon by lists by default. Love the idea! @terhechte Yes, please! I’ve been thinking about and looking for something like this since the early Twitter days. While the timeline/feed is a good way to get an overview of what’s happening right now, there are certainly people for whom I want to be sure I’d didn’t miss their posts. For this use case a timeline/feed view doesn’t make any sense. I helped myself by subscribing to single Twitter and Mastodon accounts in my feed reader via Feedbin, but your approach just seems way more natural. @terhechte Nice work! Been doing some experiments on my end, too, with something almost e-mail-like in nature.  @terhechte I've had this idea, maybe you can try it out? Add a "what are my friends up to" view with only their icons on screen, anda little number showing the number of unread posts written by that person. Icons are sorted by most recent on top left. When you click on a user's picture, their timeline opens.  @terhechte That’s genius. Kind of converting the timeline into separate feeds like an RSS reader. 👍🏼 |
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@terhechte This is a great concept. Reading a series of short posts which are unrelated has always been baffling to me. I typically skim to find something worthwhile. If I could have the top 5 most active accounts (in past hour) I follow listed this way along with one for posts with the most activity that could cut through the noise. I’d like one which highlights posts from accounts which have not posted in a while too. I’d like hashtags to be displayed this way too.