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Eugen Rochko

I don't feel as strongly about quote posts as I did in 2018. Personally, I am not a fan, but there is clearly a lot of demand for it. We're considering it.

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Thomas Guss

@Gargron yes! Make sure you can opt in or out though!

Jill Minor

@Gargron please don’t or at least give the OP more control if you do

Da Gummit 🌻

It's what I miss the most. I had a small account with good interaction and a fabulous timeline that I built from quote tweets.

Liam 💾🏴

@Gargron as a user who has previously voiced support for quoting, I feel almost obligated to request that it /not/ be implemented. It's one of those little "not here" things that I think has made using Mastodon that much kinder on my brain.

...that said, it would improve my "credit to user XYZ who found this" workflow immensely, which makes up like 90% of my threads on Bird Hell. Dunno if I'd be doing the same here - I've mostly been keeping myself "focused" on rambling :cate:

Tom Delargy

Until I saw @Gargron's justification for Mastodon banning quote posts I didn't see a problem. I decided, on balance, this decision was correct and was surprised many insisted it impaired journalists' incentive to come here. Like many things quote posting can be used for good or bad. Opting out is a poor idea as you'd miss those using it for balanced debate. The alternative is using copy and paste to provide context. But that risks people saying they've been taken out of context. #QuotePosts

Tom Delargy

@Gargron Several times Neil Gaiman quote posted me on the other place and I invariably retweeted it even when he was being critical of me and I felt the need to defend myself from his criticism. My stats went off the scale when this happened but that wasn't the reason I was happy. It helped everybody that both sides of an argument were available to everyone. Opting out of quote posting seems an unwise thing to do. If someone thinks they've been treated unfairly they can block. #QuotePosts

clay anderson 🇺🇦🇮🇱🔰🥑🌐🚲🗽☢️

@Gargron seems to me it's just a client implementation detail of how you want to display links.

Juan Arzola

@Gargron imo something more akin to backlinks help.obsidian.md/How+to/Workin would be more powerful.
- they allow posts to reference more than 1 post, not just one.
- backlinks that haven’t been approved by the orig author or from blocked users don’t show up in a post
- unlike “quote posts” they don’t require users to learn a new concept for the compose UI, they just paste links to other posts as they normally would do when they want to reference them.

Παρδαλό Κατσίκι ✔️ Pied Goat

@Gargron

Please DON'T.
The absence of tre quote feature was one essential factor differentiating Mastodon from Twitter and discouraging aggressive and abusive behaviors while giving space to engagement and exchange.
Whoever wants to agree or disagree with a statement, post, point of view can do it, there are ways for that.
No need to go backwards and use a feature that has no positive record on Twitter, in my humble opinion.
Thanks.

Julian (♪🌻♫)

@Gargron Would be great to opt in and out of having toots quoted.

sudo βραχυκύκλωμα :kafeneio:

@Gargron
Just because there is a lot of demand doesn't mean that it should be implemented.
Quoting a user's post means that the quoting user doesn't reply to the original subject and context but instead is promoting his/her opinion/comment by *using* the original one. Therefore such a move will result to a passive aggressive-by-design medium (at best) when the actual objective is to create content and respond productively. Also this behavior is generally unacceptable IRL, why having it here?

Chris

@Gargron why are you not a fan of quote posts?

Babu Menos 💬

@Gargron

Please don’t.

Please, please, PLEASE don’t!

Over the short period of time that I am actively using Mastodon, it has become so much more Twitter-like, including all the negative parts, and QT’s are a essential ingredient to the 🐦 site’s un-culture. So far, Mastodon is faring quite well in dampening the Twitter effect, but there is certainly a breaking point — and that might very well come with QT’s.

Freakinbox

@Gargron they aren't any different to replies and can be reported all the same. 🤷‍♂️

I'd like to not see ones of people I blocked.. Like at all. Twitter shows me what the QTer posts.. I don't even want that of I have the original poster blocked. 👍

Hughster

@Gargron It'd be helpful to clarify what "QT" means here.

Twitter #QTs work more as a kind of "alt-reply" function, more "branching off a conversation" than simply linking to a post, with 3 essential attributes:

1. The other post is displayed as if it's a seamless part of ones own
2. The other person is notified just as with a reply or @-mention
3. QTs are listed under "x Quoted Posts" under the original post

When one says "I want QTs", is this what one means? Would anything less be enough?

@Gargron It'd be helpful to clarify what "QT" means here.

Twitter #QTs work more as a kind of "alt-reply" function, more "branching off a conversation" than simply linking to a post, with 3 essential attributes:

1. The other post is displayed as if it's a seamless part of ones own
2. The other person is notified just as with a reply or @-mention
3. QTs are listed under "x Quoted Posts" under the original post

Jordi Margalef

@Gargron I'd rather see a native toot translating capability than the quote boost, TBH.
On the desktop is not as bad since it's easier to open new window, but on an Android mobile it's quite difficult.

Michael Meese 🇪🇺

@Gargron I‘m part of the recent Twitter migration and first I was confused, that the quotation feature was „missing“. But in my opinion, that we don’t have that function here, is a huge contribution to keep toxic conversations down. You just can’t p**p out a witty and sharp comment as easy. So I‘m in favor not to implement this sort of obvious feature.

David Fleetwood - RG Admin

@Gargron I am ambivalent on quote posts, but I quite like how you handled post editing in a way that eliminates most of the concerns raised on it. A similar approach of listening to the concerns and building with them in mind would make it feasible to not be a destructive feature.

Giselle

@Gargron I'd like it if a QT would automatically pull the OP's handle in. Kind of the same as when you respond except your comment shows up at the top, I guess.

k_taka‮🔖‭

@Gargron I somewhat oppose posts that quote all of one post like Twitter.
If it is a partial citation of a post or web article, that is, a correct citation, I may agree.

p.s.
I hope you relaunch the profile category implementation. There are more people here than before.

StuartB

@Gargron
Opt out is the wrong way to go about it - make it opt IN, so you have to concuously make the decision to allow your Toots to be quotable.
I would also suggest that the ability to use QTs is liked to this - you can only QT other people if yours are also quotable.
(I know of more than a few people who would abuse this while turning it off for themselves.)

Molotov Cockatiel

@Gargron Don’t need or want it. I agree with the reasoning to leave it out. Better cross-instance interactions and performance much more important imho.

Catherine Russell

@Gargron I have to say it’s the main thing I miss. Could #mastodonworld consider it too please?

Hal Nordlin :vibing:

@Gargron
I think it is a valuable feature as it allows people to share content and add their own comments to it.

Lia Matera

@Gargron I hope you do allow them. I like to comment on stories as I pass them along. I hesitate to bring things I didn't post myself to people's attention without explaining why.

healyn

@Gargron if i could quote post this one, i'd say "smh 👇"

k_taka‮🔖‭

@Gargron I feel that there is a need for a better means to post comments on web articles. And that too as a post on the person's own account.
As in the past, I think the Mastodon way is to use the reply function for comments on another account.
So when boosting a post, it might be nice to be able to choose whether to pull only the article URL, reply to that post comment, or simply repost (share) them. It would also be interesting to have the ability to list the comments posted to web articles.

Martin Enders (he/him)

@Gargron I don't like it.

I joined the fediverse some months ago and really enjoy that people talk with each other and not about other people, which I think will start with commented boosts.

I think it is a good thing that discussions related to a toot are only possible in one direction and avoid fuzzyfication of discussion.

It avoids that accounts with high numbers of followers take over the work/ideas of others and start a new discussion in their bubble.

Just my 2ct

onisillos

@Gargron I'm indifferent. I'm happy to adapt to the way things are done here

Rick Gaehl

@Gargron
I like them. Partly I like, sometimes, to quote my own posts - when a new thought occurs. Partly, I like to add thoughts to the posts of others. For me, it's more a case of 'yes... and', rather than any wish to belittle or contradict.

Sami Seppo

@Gargron It's understandable that in 2018, a year after the initial releasing of Mastodon, the level of idealism was probably peaking.

Since a more practical but common sense approaching to various (and not too essential) topics have emerged, been emerging.

That's the way to maintain certain core virtues/values and make the platform more widely used and easier to adopt for common SoMe sapiences.👍

Eckes :mastodon:

@Gargron no worries we can always attach screenshots like in the good old days

Alexander 🐘

@Gargron FINALLY!
That is one of the things that suck most about Mastodon. The lack of a quote feature.

Jan Žegklitz

@Gargron Has there been any development/update on this?

Maggie Maybe

@Gargron I like them, because I like to agree and expand upon someone’s post. If I read theirs and then make my own based on theirs it’s like I’m stealing their ideas and that makes me uncomfortable.

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