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Thorsten

@JorgeStolfi @Gerego @brianstorms @rodhilton He might have contributed to the initial "vision". He's got a lot of pipe-dreams, and like a broken clock is bound to be right twice a day, I could imagine the idea of a short-lived low-orbit sattelite-network for Internet to be one of the crazy ideas which turned out to be actually doable.

I think it's clear from other toots I'm by no means a fanboy. Just trying to stay objective.

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Jorge Stolfi

@th0r5t3n @Gerego @brianstorms @rodhilton

Starlink is certainly "doable", like Iridium was. The big question is whether it will be a profitable enterprise. Starlink is not a public company so we cannot tell what the market thinks about that...

emmatonkin

@JorgeStolfi @th0r5t3n @Gerego @brianstorms @rodhilton
One does wonder whether many govts will be looking at the CEO's current behaviour and thinking "Yep that's a totally acceptable set of risks, no way reliance on tech controlled by this guy could backfire."

Renée

@JorgeStolfi Also, he lied A LOT to get funding, like how the real purpose was magnanimously to provide third world internet. Yeah, no. This is a "Comcast sucks" competitor, he never intended to deploy this usefully anywhere unprofitable - he just knows what to say to get people to give him money.

Same with the tunnels, he killed real and good public transit intiatives for a very stupid idea that basically became "subways, but private."

@th0r5t3n @Gerego @brianstorms @rodhilton

Brian Dear

@reneestephen @JorgeStolfi @th0r5t3n @Gerego @rodhilton By all means, now document what telcos have done for years in terms of laying out careful PR promises of a rosy internet future for all, and receiving billions in taxpayer money for "rural high bandwidth" that's never been delivered, or the staggering amount of money Big Oil gets from taxpayers in terms of subsidies and abandoned well cleanup by the govt while Big Oil laughs all the way to the bank. Then there's the Pentagon...

Renée

@brianstorms Sure? Governments being captured by wealthy companies in any form is bad. No argument there!

Billionaires: bad.

@JorgeStolfi @th0r5t3n @Gerego @rodhilton

Brian Dear

@reneestephen @JorgeStolfi @th0r5t3n @Gerego @rodhilton

Paul McCartney: bad?
Steven Speilberg: bad?
Peter Jackson: bad?
George Lucas: bad?
Jim Cameron: bad?
Andrew Lloyd Webber: bad?
Rihanna: bad?
Jay-Z: bad?

Renée replied to Brian

@brianstorms Interesting you had to stick to just the entertainment industry to try to make your point! The vast majority of billionaires are *not* from this industry and are people whose names you do not know.

But if you think Hollywood and record labels haven't done some deeply shitty things, I have a whole handful of overtime and safety labour laws in destination locations to sell you, and the names of people maimed or killed on sets as a chaser.

@JorgeStolfi @th0r5t3n @Gerego @rodhilton

Cleopatra replied to Brian

@brianstorms @reneestephen @JorgeStolfi @th0r5t3n @Gerego @rodhilton
Yeah, pretty much.
You don't become an entertainment-billionaire by doing what you love and giving free tickets to the poor.
nebula.tv/videos/polymatter-th

just adrienne

@reneestephen @JorgeStolfi @th0r5t3n @Gerego @brianstorms @rodhilton Also Starlink has already largely ruined astronomy, and it's only going to get worse.

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