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Christine Lemmer-Webber

For years I had such a hard time explaining to *anyone* why this ActivityPub spec we were working so hard on mattered

When you think about it Elon paid 44 billion just to advertise the importance of the fediverse, gotta give that guy some credit, real generous of him

8 Nov 2022 at 3:21 | Open on octodon.social
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Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

@cwebber Oh my gosh, thank you so much for your work

8 Nov 2022 at 3:23 | Reply | Open on socel.net
Emelia 👸🏻

@cwebber heh, I've been reading the spec vocabs tonight whilst I implement a tool to convert my Twitter archive to ActivityPub structured data.

Still not sure how to structure the indexing — thinking a collection per day / month / year with references to subsets (though I might be thinking wrong)

8 Nov 2022 at 3:28 | Reply | Open on hachyderm.io
Daniel Schildt

@thisismissem Really good idea about the data conversion tool. Sounds better approach compared to a static archives of a past Twitter posts. It would enable those posts to stay interactive part of future conversations.

10 Nov 2022 at 20:42 | Reply | Open on mastodon.social
Diane 🕵

@cwebber

I bet you could do awesome things with even 44 million dollars.

8 Nov 2022 at 3:30 | Reply | Open on octodon.social
(mapcar #'emacsomancer objs)

@cwebber He's really playing the long game is Elon.

8 Nov 2022 at 3:42 | Reply | Open on types.pl
Diane 🕵

@emacsomancer @cwebber

I made an argument that Elon is has fallen victim to the dictator trap.

The Atlantic was describing it for Putin, but it works well for how twitter is burning.

octodon.social/@alienghic/1093

8 Nov 2022 at 3:47 | Reply | Open on octodon.social
Mina

@cwebber well, the banks have given him some credit. $44 billion USD.

he certainly didn't buy twitter from his own money.

imagine that, hah!

8 Nov 2022 at 3:55 | Reply | Open on cathode.church
Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint

@cwebber no as far as I'm always a supporter of these interconnecting indie social medias, i still believed activity pub is a crap protocol where it dies nothing better than RSS/mail combo. Even mastodon impelemntation doesn't follow the protocol exactly.

8 Nov 2022 at 4:10 | Reply | Open on mastodon.art
Michael Hall

@chengdulittlea @cwebber you could have just scrolled on and not said anything. Why choose negativity?

8 Nov 2022 at 13:44 | Reply | Open on fosstodon.org
Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint

@mhall119 @cwebber idk... I'm sorry about that. It's just this very protocol has been a constant headache to work with in development 😔

Maybe situation can get better when more libraries and stuff are around when more people using it and fix some inconsistency in the future. I'm looking forward to it but yeah... You got the idea

8 Nov 2022 at 13:48 | Reply | Open on mastodon.art
🏰Christophe S.❄IceEnchanter🦢

@cwebber :D

Well said, looking at events from different viewpoints can bring some fun :)

8 Nov 2022 at 8:18 | Reply | Open on mastodon.tetaneutral.net
Jeff Brown

@cwebber

The ActivityPub spec is as important as DNS.

10 Nov 2022 at 20:34 | Reply | Open on newsie.social
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@cwebber I'm literally reading a 2-year old HN thread right now and lo and behold here you are patiently, kindly, generously, and painstakingly responding in depth to people being pretty rude with what could have been valid (and kind) critique of what is necessarily an ambitious enterprise.

10 Nov 2022 at 20:44 | Reply | Open on tech.lgbt
Cheka | レション ☕️

@cwebber And most of that is debt, so he literally took out a loan to raise ActivityPub awareness.

10 Nov 2022 at 21:05 | Reply | Open on mas.to
Strypey

The true believers were always behind you @cwebber . I remember in the early days of the net trying to convince *anyone* that it could be a useful tool for activists. Now you can't get them off the damn thing;) Someone has got to be first...

10 Nov 2022 at 21:09 | Reply | Open on mastodon.nzoss.nz
Jonathan Lamothe
I remember seeing someone post something along the lines of: I was skeptical about him at first, but Elon's shown that he can take a social network and make it wildly successful... Mastodon.
10 Nov 2022 at 21:16 | Reply | Open on social.jlamothe.net
Annbass

@cwebber It’s so exciting to see this take off! You get tons of credit for sticking to it & getting #ActivityPub out the door way back in the day when few others saw the vision. A warm hug to you! #SocialWebWG #W3CSpecification

10 Nov 2022 at 21:27 | Reply | Open on mastodon.social
Christine Lemmer-Webber

@Annbass Thank YOU for all the kindness and support you gave during the spec authorship... and after! You're an unsung hero of the W3C :)

10 Nov 2022 at 21:59 | Reply | Open on octodon.social
Annbass
BenBen

@Annbass @cwebber I love the open and free Internet for such moments… And all the people contributing to it! <3

10 Nov 2022 at 22:44 | Reply | Open on chaos.social
Annbass

@BenBen @cwebber It’s thrilling. Reminds me of the earliest days of the web. Everyone floundering around, exploring, helping each other out.

10 Nov 2022 at 22:46 | Reply | Open on mastodon.social
BenBen

@Annbass @cwebber Maybe we should simply revive the old underconstruction.gif and restart from there… :)

10 Nov 2022 at 22:48 | Reply | Open on chaos.social
Annbass

@cwebber PS. I love the concept that Elon paid $44B to promote an alternative. Hahaha

10 Nov 2022 at 21:29 | Reply | Open on mastodon.social
tech? no! man, see...

@cwebber I remember when we were waiting for the bus at RacketCon 2019 and you were trying to explain to me how Spritely addressed the shortcomings of the Fediverse and I could hear the gears in my head turning trying to grasp it but it was difficult and I really only kinda got half of what you were saying

now I'm on the other side of those conversations! it's tricky, especially when talking to people who have only known corporate networks

but on the other hand, explaining why user-empowering social networking in general is important has gotten a lot easier!

@cwebber I remember when we were waiting for the bus at RacketCon 2019 and you were trying to explain to me how Spritely addressed the shortcomings of the Fediverse and I could hear the gears in my head turning trying to grasp it but it was difficult and I really only kinda got half of what you were saying

10 Nov 2022 at 21:59 | Reply | Open on icosahedron.website
Christine Lemmer-Webber
Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@technomancy @cwebber Reminds me of cwebber trying to explain object capabilities to the folks at APConf 2019, something that took me a while to grasp.

And it grew on me and nowadays I'm like "Aaah, I want more capability-based security systems (not always object kind), specially at the OS-level, it's great for least-privilege".
10 Nov 2022 at 22:18 | Reply | Open on queer.hacktivis.me
KryptykPhysh

@technomancy @cwebber I'll confess, I also find it a bit amusing that there's some wailing and gnashing of teeth from some folks who seem to regard social networks as some sort of competitive sport.

Relax, guys. Kick back. Sit a spell. ☺️

10 Nov 2022 at 22:21 | Reply | Open on mastodon.kryptykphysh.xyz
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