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πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

I mentioned this in a private message to someone recently about why a small handful of servers block qoto. I wanted to reiterate it here for the new comers on QOTO who dont know the history:

So there are some servers out there that demand every server int he network block every instance they do, and if a server doesnt block an instance they block then they block you in rettatliation.

Their reason for this is quite flawed but it goes like this.. If we federate with a bad actor instance and we boost one of their posts then their users will see it and defeat the purpose of the block. The problem is, this isnt how it actually works. If they block a server and we boost it, they wont see the boost, thats how blocks work.

The issue becomes even more complicated when you consider the fact that these servers, by virtue of their policy, have huge block lists where they block tons of major servers. So in order to satisfy them we too would have to block a huge number of servers.

This means you have a choice, you either join a server that isnt blocked, but has a huge block list themselves, or, you join a server that doesnt block and be blocked by a small handful of servers. Obviously that means on QOTO you will have bigger view of the world than you would on any of these others servers. In fact QOTO has onne of the largest federation footprints of any server in the network.

I want to also explain why we choose the decision we did. Years ago when this controversy started and servers across the fediverse started blocking there was a divide of people taking sides. WOTO was one of the few servers that didnt take sides and allowed people read content from any server (but with strict hate speech rules). This caused a huge influx of people,s pecifically from the LGBTQ community, onto our server. It turns out many people relied on us not-blocking for their physical safety. There were big name biggots (like milo yanappolus) who were on the network. They used their accounts here to watch his account for doxing so they could warn themselves and their community and protect themselves accordingly. In fact we added a feature just for them called subscriptions which allowed them to monitor accounts without following them so they could do so anonymously.

In tthe end for the safety of the LGBTQ community here we refused to engage in mass server blocking and instead encouraged our users to block servers on an individual basis and provided access to block lists for them to do so. But some really misguided servers blocked us anyway.

Thankfully the servers blocking us are few and far between and are limited to only the most excessive and aggressive block lists. As I said, QOTO has one of the largest federation footprints on the fediverse,

#mastoadmin

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@freemo that's another reason why I like this instance. Instances should not be responsible for blocking. Individual USERS should be responsible for blocking stuff that they don't want to see.

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@JoshuaACasey Agreed, especially when the system makes it so easy for individuals to block. You onnly need to block servers not people and you address mostly all bad actors.. so a dozen or two blocks and an individual is good. There is no NEED for a master block list forced upon them because the block lists are so manageable.

Moreover users can just import the blocklist as a CSV, so it literally takes a few seconds.

Louis Ingenthron

@freemo Thanks for thinking it through. I'm regularly gladdened that I stumbled into this server instead of another.

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@LouisIngenthron This issue has been a long time battle on the fediverse, and not an easy one... Luckily very few servers are still an issue... I hope one day they come to their senses but eh, it is what it is.

Dr. Guillermo Power :verified:

@freemo I'm glad I chose this instance. Thanks for this insightful update.

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@gpowerf You are welcome. It has beenn a pleasure having you so far.

nullifidian

@freemo I mirror @gpowerf's sentiment. I also couldn't find any donation info on the about pages...

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@nullifidian

I appreciate the desire to donate. For those who insist i cann pass along donations details. But truth be told ive donated tens of thousands to QOTO and we are more than ok on money for years to come. If you want to help out just be active, contribute, and find ways to help.

@gpowerf

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@STORM

Much appreciate the praise, it means a lot to me to know you feel I will do a good job with managing the community interests and make this a place you want to be.

@nullifidian @gpowerf

ALAN LAVENDER

@freemo Me too. Glad I chose here, albeit still only understood about half of that😎

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@lavenderlens It is great to have you. Luckily me and the rest of the community are always happy to help if you have any questions.

Post

@freemo

Thank you, this is a good example of using reason appropriately to pursue noble goals.

Additionally, you've removed the character limit on your instance, making your users responsible for writing posts of the appropriate length instead of imposing a limitation.

This story teaches us that it is not enough to free oneself from the explicit control of central authorities, it is also necessary for everyone to be a responsible person so that the rights of all are respected.

Ironically, many people who implement these blocks are used to calling others "fascists" as a condemnation of authoritarianism.

@freemo

Thank you, this is a good example of using reason appropriately to pursue noble goals.

Additionally, you've removed the character limit on your instance, making your users responsible for writing posts of the appropriate length instead of imposing a limitation.

This story teaches us that it is not enough to free oneself from the explicit control of central authorities, it is also necessary for everyone to be a responsible person so that the rights of all are respected.

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@post honestly you can post up to the 65K limit and it isnt a huge issue. Basically if your post is long it gets truncated with a "read more" link... so no actual harm is done.

Only way you could abuse it is if you purposely used it to flood the network. But if you do that it will get auto reported and youll get blocked.

Alexey Skobkin

@freemo
Good decision.

Some people just don't understand that forcing server blocks not only protects someone from the "unpleasant" communications, but also prohibits other users from communicating with their peers or finding important information.

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@skobkin Exactly... and prevents them from being able to investigate or be aware of attacks on them that may endanger their lives!

ceoln

@freemo I am extremely happy that the boxes I happened to whimsically check when I was signing up, led me to QOTO. This is an excellent explanation.

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@ceoln It makes me happy to hear you feel you made the right choice and are happy here in your new home. I look forward to getting to know you.

gailbear

@freemo it seems like I accidentally stumbled into the right instance! Also I'm glad there's choice out there for people who want to have massive predetermined block lists because that's how they roll, and I'm glad this choice exists for me.

πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

@gailbear I am a big choice of freedom as the priority so long as it doesnt block other peoples freedoms.

Viv

I'm very happy as well, that I chose qoto. I prefer to block people by myself (and never did so after years on twitter).
I'm here to connect, not to block.
Thank you @freemo for doing such a good job.

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