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Hugo Slabbert ⚠️

@robfielding @Gargron I've only done tiny bits of text based nav when e.g. working on headless servers with text based browsers, in a pinch before mass availability of smart phones or when in poorly connected areas. I can only imagine.

I'm not personally familiar with the screen reader experience or if there are specific instances geared to the blind community. I did come across a guide geared towards screen reader users for Mastodon, with a focus on keyboard navigation. I'm not sure of that's a helpful starting resource? There are several chapters in the guide as a whole, but this one is geared towards interaction and timeline navigation specifically:

starshipchangeling.net/changel

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Rob

@hugo @Gargron

I think the whole problem with most Accessibility approaches is that... You have government people threatening you with fines if you don't follow the government guidelines. And you get people that need it, reminding people of such laws on Twitter; constantly.

Instead, think about use cases such as devices without good screens. Up/Down/Left/Right/Select and voice into your headphones. Tweeting while walking. Use cases for everyone.

Rob

@hugo

I'm building a tiny keyboard with only 16 keys so that it fits onto the backside of an iPhone case (with thumbs on glass). I'm not even thinking about blind people. I'm deliberately ignoring them for now, because contracted (expert-level) braille is too hard for general use.

Hugo Slabbert ⚠️

@robfielding that sounds like an awesome project. Do you have info on that somewhere?

Rob

@hugo

Play around with learning Computer Braille by just typing side-by-side (kind of needs a desktop screen right now):

rfielding.github.io/editor.htm

Random code in github for 3D printing iPhone cases, 8-dot computer braille styluses, translating ASCII to computer-braille, and turning a keybow2040 4x4 mechanical key keyboard into a braille keyboard, etc.

github.com/rfielding/teeny

With a more expert than me keyboard-building collaborator. @scarlettibach (twitter)

My first video post.

@hugo

Play around with learning Computer Braille by just typing side-by-side (kind of needs a desktop screen right now):

rfielding.github.io/editor.htm

Random code in github for 3D printing iPhone cases, 8-dot computer braille styluses, translating ASCII to computer-braille, and turning a keybow2040 4x4 mechanical key keyboard into a braille keyboard, etc.

Rob

@hugo @Gargron

this link to starshipchangeling for instance. it says "g" and "N" to go to Notifications tab. I don't use JAWS on here, because the keyboard is braille layout to make it small... but it's not specifically for blind people; so it looks like a totally normal keyboard, in no specific Accessibility mode turned on. it's in Braille to make this mechanical keyboard with chonky keys fit in my pocket.

Rob

@hugo @Gargron

ie: I am betting that a lot of people would learn a chorded keyboard layout if the keyboard is on the back of an iPhone case; and braille is amazing for that task. but the keyboard appears US qwerty to the OS.

Rob

@hugo @Gargron

When I first got it working, I tried to get through days of computer use with no actual qwerty keyboard or mouse. Too much stuff doesn't do good mouseless navigation though. It's step 1 to accessibility; before you even imagine that blind people exist.

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